What would happen if Klitschko called out Ali's opponents?

[powerpuncher]

heres a serious question:

at what point does a sport stop progressing? for example, in 1,000 years, will boxers really be any better than they were 100 years before that? is there always more to learn in craft or does there come a point where all the craft has already been learned and it just comes down to talent and skill?

[Max Power]

I'm open to the idea that there comes a point where there is barely any more progress to be made as far as the art of boxing is concerned. There will always be increases is size at HW and in athleticism although those improvements also run in diminishing returns over time.

The European's have influenced boxing with their preferred long and technical styles and the general increase in power of the athletes across all weight ranges, particularly at HW because of the sizes has clearly led top boxers away from inside game and more towards a defensive, outside approach.

I think in the future, unfortunately, boxing is going to become increasingly a safety first affair because already the punches have become so hard that taking even a few flush shots could spell KO. Caution means survival and that increases your chance of winning. An overly aggressive fighter with poor defence will probably not make it far.

The era of the punch bags is long over. I know one thing, if boxing craft has peaked, it certainly was not in the 70's!

[La Cucaracha]

WladKlits chin is in any era

[Max Power]

Horseshit! Wladimir Klitschko and Lennox Lewis too incidentally only ever got put down by very hard hitters despite any other reasons. There's not too many hitters that could trouble Wlad in the 70's.

Foreman, Lyle sure that's about it. Shavers and Liston- power overrated and terrible attacking skills.

And I don't think Frazier could knock out Wlad if he just stood there and let him wail!

No wonder Ali could use his head for a defence instead of good old modern reflexes, they literally did float like butterflies and stung like bees! His Parkinsons would have kicked in WAY earlier had he lived in more powerful times.

[La Cucaracha]

This is great

[Max Power]

LOL They did look funny. Just look at the bombs though.

A couple of facts..

Wladimir has never once been knocked out by a single punch.

Wladimir has always finished a fight on his feet.

Wladimir has only 1ce in 64 fights, repeat 1/64 times against an average opponent weight of 235lbs been knocked out by the "force" from punches being the sole reason (as opposed to gassing or health issues)

I think I will just come out and say it. Wlad's chin is not the best but it isn't THAT weak.

And yes Ali's chin is "overrated" because it was never tested against the kind of punchers Wlad's was.

He fought Foreman sure but how many flush shots did big George land on Ali's chin? Not too many. He did however require a trip to hospital for the damage to his body. Punch bag Ali was a specialist at taking a large accumulation of weak punches LOL. As demonstrated in War of the Punch Bags (Fight of the Century).

[powerpuncher]

Horseshit! Wladimir Klitschko and Lennox Lewis too incidentally only ever got put down by very hard hitters despite any other reasons. There's not too many hitters that could trouble Wlad in the 70's.

Foreman, Lyle sure that's about it. Shavers and Liston- power overrated and terrible attacking skills.

And I don't think Frazier could knock out Wlad if he just stood there and let him wail!

No wonder Ali could use his head for a defence instead of good old modern reflexes, they literally did float like butterflies and stung like bees! His Parkinsons would have kicked in WAY earlier had he lived in more powerful times.

the main problem with your argument is that it is all based on what you think and has no factual evidence. you think that frazier doesnt hit harder than wlad. im not saying that you are wrong but im saying that its just an opinion that has really no weight to it. you are also forgetting that HWs wore smaller gloves back at that time too. whether or not people hit harder now, smaller gloves would probably make up the difference.

remember that williamson knocked down wlad on a counter right and he only weighed 218 pounds for the fight. ali weighed 216 for the foreman fight. williamson was 6'4 and ali was 6'3. so they were essentially the same size. and you should know that williamson should have beaten wlad on the scorecards at the time of the stoppage but wlad got a gift. williamson isnt known to have a great chin (he got KO'd in 1 round by mesi) and ali is known to be able to take punishment. also, ali is definitely faster than williamson and has a better jab and footwork. if williamson was able to outbox wlad, ali definitely would be able to.

[brocktonblockbust]

I never saw Rocky Marciano or Muhammad Ali or Jack Dempsey (the 3 greatest of all time by the way) CRAWLIN' 'CROSS THE FLOOR ON ALL FOURS like a baby deer getting ready to take a large cock up the ass like wladimir klit-ko @El Kabong

[Max Power]

And yet Wladimir Klitschko would knock Marciano or Dempsey out 1st connected right hand and Ali would pose a similar threat and suffer the same fate as JeanMarc Mormeck... He would be dominated, brutalised and kindly advised to run around the block a few more times and compete in the cruiser division!

61-3 Wladimir Klitschko

28-4 Muhammad Ali

0-0 Rocky Marciano

in 200lb HW fights... Yeah those numbers tell the REAL story mate.

A favourite quote of mine I find appropriate at this point is appropriate...

It's easy to look like Muhammad Ali when all your fighting is turkey's