World Star Hip Hop

[Gandalf]

The same guy who hates the idea of disabled people empowering and strengthening themselves through sport and striving for acceptence and deeper understanding by this being shared with the world is now sympathetic of poor people and is criticising somebody for being 'elitist'? Wow...

You don't have to look far for examples of you being a pompous, elitist snob... For you to call anybody else one is comically ludicrous.

Anybody else talking about worldstar and you'd be going on rants about how 'vile' it was, but seeing as Lyle represents the Western Status Quo that you loathe so much, he's automatically going to be argued with, you can't help it.

Interesting. You have nothing to add to the thread, no criticism of Lyle, and all to have a rant at me. The mighty me who has hurt your little feelings in times past.

I am elitist to the extent that Andre has quoted above. I don't think it matters who the fastest person with no legs is. I really don't. I really don't think any second child should be supported by my taxes. I am an elitist in that regard. However, I am a man of the working classes or even nothing classes and I believe you need to be given the oportunities to shine and that means access to a doctor, a teacher and if that doesn't help you then you have a rocky road. It also means society working in the interests of all and not only the super rich. In that sense I am not elitist and am not from that and have never been a part of it. I manipulate the system, but I'm never of the system.

Everything that I have today is achieved by rejecting what every single one of my old classroom friends is. A low paying person living in the hometown. I don't live in my hometown, I don't live in my country, I don't follow the rules, I don't breed to satiate government growth lust. I play by my own rules. I am different. I don't play the game. If a man with no legs wants to be a teacher or a doctor then brilliant. I genuinely approve of the idea. But the Olympics is nonsense and both handicapped and non-handicapped Olympics is nonsense.

My views on being different are nothing to do with elitism. My views on being different are about needing to be self sufficient and free of tyranny. Like it or not the West is heading towards tyranny. My take on being different is simply abstaining from those systems of control. You will always be under a government, but some are more free than others. To be an elitist means that you are a banker or a Tory and I am neither.

I'm only a snob when it comes to rejecting ordinary things that bore me. It's good to be a snob sometimes. Most people don't read books and one should frown upon discourse with people who have little to say.

[El Kabong]

Interesting. You have nothing to add to the thread, no criticism of Lyle, and all to have a rant at me. The mighty me who has hurt your little feelings in times past.

I am elitist to the extent that Andre has quoted above. I don't think it matters who the fastest person with no legs is. I really don't. I really don't think any second child should be supported by my taxes. I am an elitist in that regard. However, I am a man of the working classes or even nothing classes and I believe you need to be given the oportunities to shine and that means access to a doctor, a teacher and if that doesn't help you then you have a rocky road. It also means society working in the interests of all and not only the super rich. In that sense I am not elitist and am not from that and have never been a part of it. I manipulate the system, but I'm never of the system.

Everything that I have today is achieved by rejecting what every single one of my old classroom friends is. A low paying person living in the hometown. I don't live in my hometown, I don't live in my country, I don't follow the rules, I don't breed to satiate government growth lust. I play by my own rules. I am different. I don't play the game. If a man with no legs wants to be a teacher or a doctor then brilliant. I genuinely approve of the idea. But the Olympics is nonsense and both handicapped and non-handicapped Olympics is nonsense.

My views on being different are nothing to do with elitism. My views on being different are about needing to be self sufficient and free of tyranny. Like it or not the West is heading towards tyranny. My take on being different is simply abstaining from those systems of control. You will always be under a government, but some are more free than others. To be an elitist means that you are a banker or a Tory and I am neither.

I'm only a snob when it comes to rejecting ordinary things that bore me. It's good to be a snob sometimes. Most people don't read books and one should frown upon discourse with people who have little to say.

Why do the Paralympics bother you so much? No one forces you to care about them, it doesn't cost you anything, why so hateful?

Children should be cared for by their parents and NOT by the government, I agree 100% but if you're on about taxes then perhaps you have an opinion on property taxes people have to pay to fund education. Not all the taxpayers have children and not all of the children go to public schools and those poor parents get a double whammy tuition for the private school AND property taxes to pay for the public school as well.

The crux of your rant is that you're a special snowflake and you don't have to raise a finger to help society but the "wealthy elitists" MUST by force of law help society....so you're clearly a hypocrite and proud of it...typical liberal.....TYPICAL, not special, not an individual precious little snowflake, but plain, average, worthless, and TYPICAL.

You believe you're special for reading books? Do you want a fucking medal for doing what the average 6 year old can do?


Again, you're well off topic and if you truly cared about "the working man" & the lower socioeconomic classes then you'd agree with me 100% that the "culture" shown in the videos I've posted is no good for anyone. It is a culture that laughs at and ridicules those who seek out knowledge and as an educator yourself one would assume that would strike a nerve with you....but apparently not. Apparently you don't truly care about those people.

[Gandalf]

Eh? Again, would the Olympics have any appeal if it was based upon family income groupings? No, it wouldn't. It is based upon either being good with no legs or good with legs. Either way, it doesn't help a doctor or a teacher. I don't care about any Olympics, it's daft.

If we are talking property, then I believe property should be taken at the point of death and redistributed. Then there would be no need for this nonsense of making poor people work until death. I also include the Royal family. Take their property and wealth and make them live like we all do. No special rules for Tim 'nice but dim'. Anything that I have at death should of course be put back into society, and the same for ALL others. That is where society has gone wrong. It isn't put back, they breed, and think they can have their shit rise. No, it shouldn't.

The crux of my argument is that I am beautiful and lovely, but we need to redistibute. I've no issues with that. I plan on getting old and doing the best I can, but when I am gone it goes back. I started with nothing, I shall end with nothing. That is just, that is the point. I may be a snowflake, but I'm also one who has manipulated the system and could easily rest for a decade and much more if he so desired and do so in a fair degree of opulence. The point is that nothing can achieve a lot and one shouldn't feel angry about losers like you with your petty insults and silly name calling.

You are the loser and have to live in a police state, I encourage people to rebel. That is the difference. The class I am from has nothing to lose whilst you and your group loses everything. It is easy for people like me to be, but I am a freak.

[El Kabong]

Eh? Again, would the Olympics have any appeal if it was based upon family income groupings? No, it wouldn't. It is based upon either being good with no legs or good with legs. Either way, it doesn't help a doctor or a teacher. I don't care about any Olympics, it's daft.

If we are talking property, then I believe property should be taken at the point of death and redistributed. Then there would be no need for this nonsense of making poor people work until death. I also include the Royal family. Take their property and wealth and make them live like we all do. No special rules for Tim 'nice but dim'. Anything that I have at death should of course be put back into society, and the same for ALL others. That is where society has gone wrong. It isn't put back, they breed, and think they can have their shit rise. No, it shouldn't.

The crux of my argument is that I am beautiful and lovely, but we need to redistibute. I've no issues with that. I plan on getting old and doing the best I can, but when I am gone it goes back. I started with nothing, I shall end with nothing. That is just, that is the point. I may be a snowflake, but I'm also one who has manipulated the system and could easily rest for a decade and much more if he so desired and do so in a fair degree of opulence. The point is that nothing can achieve a lot and one shouldn't feel angry about losers like you with your petty insults and silly name calling.

You are the loser and have to live in a police state, I encourage people to rebel. That is the difference. The class I am from has nothing to lose whilst you and your group loses everything. It is easy for people like me to be, but I am a freak.

You don't care about the Olympics but you DO care about sport obviously I mean this IS a boxing site so there must be a part of you that enjoys competition to an extent.

The only way to redistribute wealth effectively is to eliminate the incentives to have wealth. What system offers the poor the best chance to better their position in life? Socialism? Communism? ....sorry pal CAPITALISM is king because it plays to behavioral psychology.




And again, you've attempted to change the topic. How does the culture worldstarhiphop is promoting help the poor? That is the question and you don't answer it because you're being contrarian to my views and when you're contrarian to my stance on this you are WRONG

[Gandalf]

I enjoy sports, but I don't think they matter in the great scheme of things. Sports are one of numerous ways of deflecting attention and manipulating nationalistic agendas. If others buy into it then cool, but when I hear a national anthem, then there is something wrong.

You posting a video of Milton Friedman, who was in my opinion one of the most repellent anti-humans to have ever existed, is not going to encourage me to believe that poor black culture is to blame for their plight. Friedmans views were extremist views and in practice DO NOT work without coercion and force. There is something in your mind that refuses to accept that Britain and America are failed economies and are largely fueled by extremism. Decent, functioning societies exist, but they are elsewhere in Europe. Britain and America are now borderline banana republics, though of course we make a mockery of that with the abberation of a bloated Monarchy.

World Star Hip Hop is what it is. I have nothing in common with it, I don't understand it, but is it any more negative and harmful than Milton Friedman and the harm being carried out from above? People are born poor and stay poor because of people like Friedman. Poor people look silly because of World Star Hip Hop. Change from the top and change will follow below as people rise up and have self worth.

[VictorCharlie]

Friedmans views were extremist views and in practice DO NOT work without coercion and force.

You get the award for the dumbest thing said on the internet today. Friedman is the most brilliant economist of our lifetime. But please explain how advocating for freedom and liberty in fact requires coercion and violence. The great irony of your statement is it is in fact centralized gov't regulations and programs that can only work through coercion and force. Thanks Miles. You ended my night with a good laugh.

[Gandalf]

Not really, but if it helps you sleep at night to accept right wing indoctrination then that is fine by me. Friedman's theories, and all they are are theories, have only been attempted through coercion, terror and force and societies that have experienced such economic brutalisation have ultimately rejected his ideas or else continue to experience massive social and economic disparities. The Shock Doctrine rips apart Friedman and Chicago for what they are.

Government is necessary as society will not correct itself. The problem with the West is that the governments now only listen to the business elite who don't even pay their share due to the bogus claims that globalisation is better for all. Globalisation is not better for all and now that the propaganda has been shown up for what it is, reality is now beginning to set in.

I find your extreme political views to be rather stupid too considering you have spent most of your life working for governments, but all is fair in love and war eh.