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    Default Re: What would happen if Klitschko called out Ali's opponents?

    Honestly Bradlee I appreciate your reply, you have listed exercises some of which are still staples for a boxer, a few of which are no longer and/or were not in common place then.

    But overall I'm afraid I virtually disagree with all else.

    There has certainly been improvements or "changes" if you'd prefer to call them that in a modern boxers regime for one.

    -Olden days boxers done much distance work where as it has been shown today that intervals provide the correct fitness for the sport and distance work has little relevance (i.e. the early morning jog may remain or may not be used at all and is simply now a warm up. Previously it was the principle cardio developer).

    -The focus mitt was not extensively used as today and certainly not in as elaborate a fashion. Today it represents the next most important thing and something a boxer can do far more of than sparring and fighting to develop their skills and in some aspects it is a superior method for developing their skills as they can perfect technique and accuracy under relaxed conditions.

    -The double end bag is the next most important tool and can be used even more often but the speed ball has been proven virtually useless for the preparation of a boxer and its regular practice translates to no actual aspect of boxing. As soon as you learn to time it, it becomes shoulder endurance. When you see a modern boxer doing this on media day it is for show.

    -Plyometrics and weight training have contrary to your opinion been incorporated into the preparation of every boxer today, not just heavies. You can see their preparation on You Tube which are now filmed extensively, there can be no argument.

    -Training is periodised today as in all major sports usually flowing from a strength and power oriented phase to a speed and skills and conditioning one producing a superior final product for battle over the hit and miss training of yore.

    -Shadow boxing whilst good for balance and training to miss and handspeed and imaginary situations has been curbed in intensity and now regarded more of a warm up as rapid shadow boxing can strain shoulder blade/upper spine muscles and hyper extend the elbows

    -Diets have improved greatly, a boxer applies the modern advancements not available in olden days to their diets and eats what they need to eat in order to maximise their performance. Protein shakes and supplements have nourished athletes much better today. Former days boxers like Dempsey existed on very poor diets sometimes.

    -Sports medicine and recovery methods have improved dramatically, there's no question enabling atletes to train harder for longer, more frequently and with better injury management/prevention.

    I could go on forever.

    On Dempsey and his friends you think they trained so hard they got down so fine? BS. Dempsey looks soft at the core. The main thing I notice when I see a picture of a previous HW like Dempsey or Louis is that their bodies are not as hard as modern fighters.

    To the point that modern HW's are fat at the core, there are SOME fighters like this as there were in every other era. In previous eras even the CHAMPS were fat. Today the champs are lean and 6 packed and SOME of their oppoennts are chubby. For every chubby HW you point out to me I can show you one who looks like a ripped body builder with more muscle and less body fat than Dempsey or any fighter of his era! Another important point is that even if a fighter is fat today it is a result normally that calories are in excess of usage, but their training is still maximised and doesn't affect their stamina (unless grossly obese in which case I agree they have not trained) and underneath their core strength is far higher than Dempey's who was not built in this department.

    You made one point about Dempsey I cannot dispute. He was an average sized HW of his day... And he stopped a few bigger... very average opponents without controversy. His entire career was smoke and mirrors and nobody of that era would have any relevance whatsoever in professional boxing today.
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    Default Re: What would happen if Klitschko called out Ali's opponents?

    What next are ya gonna try to tell me? Something about the mayweather family's tremendous knowledge of modern food science and nutrition?! C'mon, it's Kool-aid and Mcdonalds for lil Floyd, baby!

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    Default Re: What would happen if Klitschko called out Ali's opponents?

    Floyd Mayweather is a flamboyant personality that does his part for the media. When you see Mayweather cruising around looking for a burger joint prior to his fight with Canelo for example- this is his way of making a statement for the public and a psychological game for Canelo that you have to remain starved and weak for another 2 days to make weight whilst I can relax, eat whatever I want and come fight night it wont make any difference, I'm still going to kick your ass!

    What you have to realise is that behind the scenes of what you see on the cameras, Mayweather is a very dedicated fighter who trains very hard around the clock, not fooling around what you are shown on TV, and his team would have a dietician hired to cater to his requirements whether he is moving up or down to maximize his energy like every other top level boxer today. His dad and uncle would not be in charge of something like that. And I think his dietician is introduced in a Mayweather documentary. A pretty lady by no small coincidence lol. I don't think that diet consists of Kool-Aid and McDonalds very often!
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    Default Re: What would happen if Klitschko called out Ali's opponents?

    WladKlit is a bitch with a chin of china who needs big bro to fight his battles

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    Default Re: What would happen if Klitschko called out Ali's opponents?

    Didn't Wladdy beat up Rahman for Vitali who he apparently sent into retirement hiding for a few years before the big bad Rock was no longer a threat to him? Score settled, the brothers are even

    If you swallow that sort of nonsense at all! Neither Klitschko or Lennox Lewis have ever ducked anybody in reality.

    Again, who exactly has wasted Klitschko in a chin related manner?

    1 opponent... Corrie Sanders- a 6'4" 225lb very fast aggressive southpaw power puncher.

    Additionally who caught Wlad with a big shot while his head was sandwiched between Sander's own head and his fist (watch in slow). Where additionally Wlad got up several times.

    This is not SO bad!
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    Default Re: What would happen if Klitschko called out Ali's opponents?

    WladKlit got dropped by nobodies he is a sorry excuse for a boxer he even shows clips off great champs at his fights so people in attendance know what greatness is.

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