London will be overrun by 29 million Romanians and Bulgarians

[Andre]

This is England and shouldn't be any other way

Says the man who thought Hitler had a point and so did the IRA. This country was built by immigrants and populated by immigrants from time immemorial. To deny this is not to love England but to deny it's very lifeblood and I love England.

Our schools a full,the jails are full, the Heath service is at breaking point , and we are bust as a country , so we need more migrants why ?
And for the record I'd string the bankers and any dodgy official by the balls. I would also like to ask why are the people who a coming here all from poor countries ?
Well in most cases they are on the make.
Close borders and sort out this mess, including making the people on benefits work for the handouts, how can you need foreign workers when we have a dole queue? Make these cunts work.

Al, the highest number of Illegal immigrants in the UK come from Australia. Followed by the U.S.A. That is a FACT. What do you make of that?

So is there cash work there? I cant see how they'd get by otherwise?
Im surprised by that,they wouldnt be able to get on the dole over there, or on the health scheme,they must be young dumb party goers with a decent cash income .

[ryanman]

This is England and shouldn't be any other way

Says the man who thought Hitler had a point and so did the IRA. This country was built by immigrants and populated by immigrants from time immemorial. To deny this is not to love England but to deny it's very lifeblood and I love England.

Our schools a full,the jails are full, the Heath service is at breaking point , and we are bust as a country , so we need more migrants why ?
And for the record I'd string the bankers and any dodgy official by the balls. I would also like to ask why are the people who a coming here all from poor countries ?
Well in most cases they are on the make.
Close borders and sort out this mess, including making the people on benefits work for the handouts, how can you need foreign workers when we have a dole queue? Make these cunts work.

Al, the highest number of Illegal immigrants in the UK come from Australia. Followed by the U.S.A. That is a FACT. What do you make of that?

So is there cash work there? I cant see how they'd get by otherwise?
Im surprised by that,they wouldnt be able to get on the dole over there, or on the health scheme,they must be young dumb party goers with a decent cash income .

It's cash work yeah. But also they aren't really a priority target, because they are the type of immigrants that bigots can tolerate.

[Beanz]

This is England and shouldn't be any other way

Says the man who thought Hitler had a point and so did the IRA. This country was built by immigrants and populated by immigrants from time immemorial. To deny this is not to love England but to deny it's very lifeblood and I love England.

Our schools a full,the jails are full, the Heath service is at breaking point , and we are bust as a country , so we need more migrants why ?
And for the record I'd string the bankers and any dodgy official by the balls. I would also like to ask why are the people who a coming here all from poor countries ?
Well in most cases they are on the make.
Close borders and sort out this mess, including making the people on benefits work for the handouts, how can you need foreign workers when we have a dole queue? Make these cunts work.

Al, the highest number of Illegal immigrants in the UK come from Australia. Followed by the U.S.A. That is a FACT. What do you make of that?

So is there cash work there? I cant see how they'd get by otherwise?
Im surprised by that,they wouldnt be able to get on the dole over there, or on the health scheme,they must be young dumb party goers with a decent cash income .

It's cash work yeah. But also they aren't really a priority target, because they are the type of immigrants that bigots can tolerate.

I don't mind the Odd Aussie, particularly the indigenous brown digeridoo playing boomerang throwing ones, but the illegal, chequered Golf trouser wearing, loud mouthed Yanks should get a visa, or go right back home to Uncle Sam.

[Andre]

This is England and shouldn't be any other way

Says the man who thought Hitler had a point and so did the IRA. This country was built by immigrants and populated by immigrants from time immemorial. To deny this is not to love England but to deny it's very lifeblood and I love England.

Our schools a full,the jails are full, the Heath service is at breaking point , and we are bust as a country , so we need more migrants why ?
And for the record I'd string the bankers and any dodgy official by the balls. I would also like to ask why are the people who a coming here all from poor countries ?
Well in most cases they are on the make.
Close borders and sort out this mess, including making the people on benefits work for the handouts, how can you need foreign workers when we have a dole queue? Make these cunts work.

Al, the highest number of Illegal immigrants in the UK come from Australia. Followed by the U.S.A. That is a FACT. What do you make of that?

So is there cash work there? I cant see how they'd get by otherwise?
Im surprised by that,they wouldnt be able to get on the dole over there, or on the health scheme,they must be young dumb party goers with a decent cash income .

It's cash work yeah. But also they aren't really a priority target, because they are the type of immigrants that bigots can tolerate.

I don't mind the Odd Aussie, particularly the indigenous brown digeridoo playing boomerang throwing ones, but the illegal, chequered Golf trouser wearing, loud mouthed Yanks should get a visa, or go right back home to Uncle Sam.

The amount of British tourists that throw their visas and stay in California is astounding.
I can see why they wouldnt want to go back to miserable weather in a country the size of a shoe.
The other way around Americans or Australians staying in Britain .
I can see exactly why you are against them cause they are obviously insane fuckwits.

Keep em and we'll keep the Brits who are here and in the States illegally, good trade

Who wants traitors.

[Gandalf]

First off, I see classic deflection tactics being used by Greenbeanz. A deflection tactic is one used in an effort to cut off further dialogue. If someone makes a valid point then someone responds with 'I will break your arm', then that is clearly a deflection tactic. In this instance Greenbeanz is making the argument that because me and Brockton do not live in our respective home countries then we have no right to speak on these issues. It is a deflection tactic though as me and Brockton are connected with our home countries through family and history. Our countries are our countries and to suggest that we shouldn't comment is an outrageous one. 'But you don't live here, so keep your gob shut', says the wise one. Incredible.

Also, it is a daft argument to say that English people are simply lazy and that the immigrants are more educated than me and Brockton. To even teach overseas me and Brockton have needed to be university educated and to do what I do, you need post graduate qualifications. Maybe Brockton does too, but I haven't asked him. Now please show me the statistics on how many of these Polish immigrants are as educated as we are. Again, it is a silly argument as educated people are not going to the UK to earn what is typically minimum wage or do cash in hand jobs. I assume this was an argument made just to be a condescending git.

If there are tens of thousands of Americans and Australians running amok then they sould be kicked out! Again, I think it is a diversionary argument to suggest that these are 'acceptable immigrants' to the 'bigots'. I don't think people would be impressed if they knew they were there illegally and working cash in hand. Again, it is terrible for the local economy as they are not paying into the system.

In the past ten years. Funnily enough in the exact time span that I have been away, the entire demographics of the UK have been changing. Is it for the better or is it for the worse? The elite will say the better. Greenbeanz will argue for the better, but there has been no real national debate on the issue. Even now the politicians are just wanting to look tough knowing an election is round the corner. In some respects I think immigration is needed. Asylum is a valid reason. In years past the legacy of colonialism meant we had obligations whence Indian and Pakistani communities, but those days are gone and the Polish, Romanians, or Americans, have nothing to do with that legacy.

Every country of the world is founded upon immigration if taken further enough back in time. However, what we have today are nation states and those nation states have an obligation to their ethnic populations. You put them first. Instead what we have is a system where British people are not able to get jobs and it isn't because foreign people will work harder, it is because you can boss a foreign person around if you know that you can control them.

You can't get away with that with a native person. I've seen illegals here, you have them round your finger paying cash in hand. I've seen people with legit visas putting up with shit because they are on a temp visa and they will be out if they resist. It's easier to control a foreign worker who doesn't know the system and of course English bosses love the foreign labour. It's a masterstroke. Then if anyone resists saying 'This is all a bit crap, why not just pay the British workers a decent wage and follow the rules?'. That is because that is what it is all about!

You should control immigration. Not stop it, but control it and vet the system. Then ensure that workers are being protected and that everyone is paying into the system. Also the visa should be controlled, maybe 2 years max, but you will go home at the end. If you break the law, then you get deported and banned. You only stay beyond if you invest into the country AND marry. The UK is too slack on this, a few years in sees everyone becoming naturalised and in reality the number of foreigners is much worse. Legals, naturalised, illegals, it all adds up to a lot of competition for local people, who quite clearly cannot compete. Not because they are lazy like Greenbeanz says. That's one of the old chestnuts that they like to espouse.

I can see two very clear models having seen two sides of a coin. That makes me probably more aware of immigration models than Greenbeanz and likewise the same could be applied to Brockton who has experienced several countries. Instead Greenbeanz will try to divide opinion and make it look like we are the problem and he knows better. We see the coin from all sides having actually lived under different models. We just know which one makes more sense and are not afraid to be seen as non-PC koolaid drinkers.

[Andre]

First off, I see classic deflection tactics being used by Greenbeanz. A deflection tactic is one used in an effort to cut off further dialogue. If someone makes a valid point then someone responds with 'I will break your arm', then that is clearly a deflection tactic. In this instance Greenbeanz is making the argument that because me and Brockton do not live in our respective home countries then we have no right to speak on these issues. It is a deflection tactic though as me and Brockton are connected with our home countries through family and history. Our countries are our countries and to suggest that we shouldn't comment is an outrageous one. 'But you don't live here, so keep your gob shut', says the wise one. Incredible.

Also, it is a daft argument to say that English people are simply lazy and that the immigrants are more educated than me and Brockton. To even teach overseas me and Brockton have needed to be university educated and to do what I do, you need post graduate qualifications. Maybe Brockton does too, but I haven't asked him. Now please show me the statistics on how many of these Polish immigrants are as educated as we are. Again, it is a silly argument as educated people are not going to the UK to earn what is typically minimum wage or do cash in hand jobs. I assume this was an argument made just to be a condescending git.

If there are tens of thousands of Americans and Australians running amok then they sould be kicked out! Again, I think it is a diversionary argument to suggest that these are 'acceptable immigrants' to the 'bigots'. I don't think people would be impressed if they knew they were there illegally and working cash in hand. Again, it is terrible for the local economy as they are not paying into the system.

In the past ten years. Funnily enough in the exact time span that I have been away, the entire demographics of the UK have been changing. Is it for the better or is it for the worse? The elite will say the better. Greenbeanz will argue for the better, but there has been no real national debate on the issue. Even now the politicians are just wanting to look tough knowing an election is round the corner. In some respects I think immigration is needed. Asylum is a valid reason. In years past the legacy of colonialism meant we had obligations whence Indian and Pakistani communities, but those days are gone and the Polish, Romanians, or Americans, have nothing to do with that legacy.

Every country of the world is founded upon immigration if taken further enough back in time. However, what we have today are nation states and those nation states have an obligation to their ethnic populations. You put them first. Instead what we have is a system where British people are not able to get jobs and it isn't because foreign people will work harder, it is because you can boss a foreign person around if you know that you can control them.

You can't get away with that with a native person. I've seen illegals here, you have them round your finger paying cash in hand. I've seen people with legit visas putting up with shit because they are on a temp visa and they will be out if they resist. It's easier to control a foreign worker who doesn't know the system and of course English bosses love the foreign labour. It's a masterstroke. Then if anyone resists saying 'This is all a bit crap, why not just pay the British workers a decent wage and follow the rules?'. That is because that is what it is all about!

You should control immigration. Not stop it, but control it and vet the system. Then ensure that workers are being protected and that everyone is paying into the system. Also the visa should be controlled, maybe 2 years max, but you will go home at the end. If you break the law, then you get deported and banned. You only stay beyond if you invest into the country AND marry. The UK is too slack on this, a few years in sees everyone becoming naturalised and in reality the number of foreigners is much worse. Legals, naturalised, illegals, it all adds up to a lot of competition for local people, who quite clearly cannot compete. Not because they are lazy like Greenbeanz says. That's one of the old chestnuts that they like to espouse.

I can see two very clear models having seen two sides of a coin. That makes me probably more aware of immigration models than Greenbeanz and likewise the same could be applied to Brockton who has experienced several countries. Instead Greenbeanz will try to divide opinion and make it look like we are the problem and he knows better. We see the coin from all sides having actually lived under different models. We just know which one makes more sense and are not afraid to be seen as non-PC koolaid drinkers.

It is 'Brockton and I'.

B-

Miles is attentive in Saddoland and here in this essay has some very valid points, we wish he would pay more attention in English and stop dreaming of Wordsworth and other worthless pursuits.
Very good work Miles ****.

[Beanz]

First off, I see classic deflection tactics being used by Greenbeanz. A deflection tactic is one used in an effort to cut off further dialogue. If someone makes a valid point then someone responds with 'I will break your arm', then that is clearly a deflection tactic. In this instance Greenbeanz is making the argument that because me and Brockton do not live in our respective home countries then we have no right to speak on these issues. It is a deflection tactic though as me and Brockton are connected with our home countries through family and history. Our countries are our countries and to suggest that we shouldn't comment is an outrageous one. 'But you don't live here, so keep your gob shut', says the wise one. Incredible.

Also, it is a daft argument to say that English people are simply lazy and that the immigrants are more educated than me and Brockton. To even teach overseas me and Brockton have needed to be university educated and to do what I do, you need post graduate qualifications. Maybe Brockton does too, but I haven't asked him. Now please show me the statistics on how many of these Polish immigrants are as educated as we are. Again, it is a silly argument as educated people are not going to the UK to earn what is typically minimum wage or do cash in hand jobs. I assume this was an argument made just to be a condescending git.

If there are tens of thousands of Americans and Australians running amok then they sould be kicked out! Again, I think it is a diversionary argument to suggest that these are 'acceptable immigrants' to the 'bigots'. I don't think people would be impressed if they knew they were there illegally and working cash in hand. Again, it is terrible for the local economy as they are not paying into the system.

In the past ten years. Funnily enough in the exact time span that I have been away, the entire demographics of the UK have been changing. Is it for the better or is it for the worse? The elite will say the better. Greenbeanz will argue for the better, but there has been no real national debate on the issue. Even now the politicians are just wanting to look tough knowing an election is round the corner. In some respects I think immigration is needed. Asylum is a valid reason. In years past the legacy of colonialism meant we had obligations whence Indian and Pakistani communities, but those days are gone and the Polish, Romanians, or Americans, have nothing to do with that legacy.

Every country of the world is founded upon immigration if taken further enough back in time. However, what we have today are nation states and those nation states have an obligation to their ethnic populations. You put them first. Instead what we have is a system where British people are not able to get jobs and it isn't because foreign people will work harder, it is because you can boss a foreign person around if you know that you can control them.

You can't get away with that with a native person. I've seen illegals here, you have them round your finger paying cash in hand. I've seen people with legit visas putting up with shit because they are on a temp visa and they will be out if they resist. It's easier to control a foreign worker who doesn't know the system and of course English bosses love the foreign labour. It's a masterstroke. Then if anyone resists saying 'This is all a bit crap, why not just pay the British workers a decent wage and follow the rules?'. That is because that is what it is all about!

You should control immigration. Not stop it, but control it and vet the system. Then ensure that workers are being protected and that everyone is paying into the system. Also the visa should be controlled, maybe 2 years max, but you will go home at the end. If you break the law, then you get deported and banned. You only stay beyond if you invest into the country AND marry. The UK is too slack on this, a few years in sees everyone becoming naturalised and in reality the number of foreigners is much worse. Legals, naturalised, illegals, it all adds up to a lot of competition for local people, who quite clearly cannot compete. Not because they are lazy like Greenbeanz says. That's one of the old chestnuts that they like to espouse.

I can see two very clear models having seen two sides of a coin. That makes me probably more aware of immigration models than Greenbeanz and likewise the same could be applied to Brockton who has experienced several countries. Instead Greenbeanz will try to divide opinion and make it look like we are the problem and he knows better. We see the coin from all sides having actually lived under different models. We just know which one makes more sense and are not afraid to be seen as non-PC koolaid drinkers.

MILES

You are a right wing racist bigot. This is very evident and apparent to all but the most naive and simple minded observer. I have never threatened to break your arm merely suggested that a smack in the mouth might do you some good. You on the other hand have threatened to scalp me and spray me with mace being the effeminate weedy girl spider that you are.

I am not deflecting anything I am addressing the reality that you ran away from and the propaganda and bullshit spouted by Oswald Mosley Nigel Farrage and his ubber fan Brockton. It is no surprise that Morrissey, Suede and other right wing posers are your poster boys, no more surprising than your view that Roma present the same menace as Jews and the disabled and should be exterminated.

You are also the most condescending, opinionated, self entitled selfish cunt on Earth. You can't even remember your wife's birthday and should be put in the stocks and pelted with Kimchi.

You are purposefully deflecting rational argument and muddying the waters to serve your own agenda in equating legal migration and the right to work with Illegal migration. You identify with the privileged and not the underclass because you are a unbearable snob. You refuse to accept that anyone can be on a par with you let alone surpass your own educational achievements and so you automatically assume that migration means unskilled labour because every other race or ethnic class to you is inferior. You make this supposition abundantly clear by insisting that every Hotel in London is full of Foreign workers and by your bolting the UK because it was getting a bit challenging to a black shirted facist like yourself.

You are incredibly boring. You go on and on and on and on and on and on and then some.

You are foreign labour. Get out of Korea, they have done nothing to deserve you. (except maybe the torturing of people in jail under false premise of spying)

Educated people do come and will continue to come to the UK. Yourself and Brockton are not unique or blessed from on high in not being manual migrant labour, not that the nature of somebodies day job is neither here nor there. You should go home after 2 years if that is your suggestion for the UK but No because you are part of the master race ?

Your condescending PC argument is 100% bullshit. It is something you bring up to disguise your own arrogant intolerance. You portray yourself as sensitive and caring and yet could not really give a fuck about anything than your own pot belly and an invented persona that excuses you behaving like a horrible cunt. Your free pass has ended, suck it up. There you go 8 paragraphs to mirror your drivel.