They do know what they were talking about. Louis hit hard, Louis is a champion, he was a heavyweight champion of the world for years. That much is a NO-BRAINER!

None of these guys in any of your quotes claim Joe "Hit harder than Lennox Lewis" or "Could have beaten up Ali" or "Deserves to be rated higher than Wladimir Klitschko because he beat up Max Schmelling".

Facts are facts, they are just so. Even if your quotes contained something at all to refute my arguments... It's heresay! And it would warrant looking into their comments for validity. Not taking such things as gospel.