What does boxing do after Mayweather retires?

[chris6878]

When fight hype happens, Mayweather is the man that everyone pays attention to. We all know it. From Japan to Nebraska.

Who's gonna do it for the sport world wide? I don't see anyone doing it for a while to come.

yea fight hype, then the fight is a complete let down. May has had some very boring fights. So when he retires what will I miss......nothing at all. Too many other exciting fighters out there to be wasting time thinking about floyd. If you think life is over when he retires, then you need to stop watching boxing

[El Kabong]

Something ridiculous to get worried about....there will always be people to step into the role of "superstar". Even if there's a blood and guts fan favorite out there boxing will be fine.

[bradlee180]

"I'll give you a free look into the future, people will keep saying that Boxing is going to die until one day you die and Boxing lives on." - Mr.pain.

[bradlee180]

Nobody's bigger than the sport. Nobody.
And it's a world-sport. The sport moves on. Time does its thing as huge Draws become shadows in time...

Someone new comes along, electrifying the masses.
Someone always does.




That's Boxing...

[bradlee180]

Mayweather only became a Draw known to the mainstream public in 2007, and from then to now is a small blip in the long, glorious, whorish history of Prizefighting since 1867 when gloved Boxing under Marquess of Queensberry rules came into effect, gradually supplanting Bareknuckes under London Prize Ring Rules by 1892.


No Boxer gets very long to make his mark in the sport...

Pacquiao's a much more widely-known global figure.
Some fighters are much more than just fighters, they are symbols for say human rights or some other cause. They're rare. Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Dempsey. Pacquiao is one of them. The boxers that are remembered are the ones that transcend the sport.

[zhubin]

Mayweather only became a Draw known to the mainstream public in 2007, and from then to now is a small blip in the long, glorious, whorish history of Prizefighting since 1867 when gloved Boxing under Marquess of Queensberry rules came into effect, gradually supplanting Bareknuckes under London Prize Ring Rules by 1892.


No Boxer gets very long to make his mark in the sport...

Pacquiao's a much more widely-known global figure.
Some fighters are much more than just fighters, they are symbols for say human rights or some other cause. They're rare. Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Dempsey. Pacquiao is one of them. The boxers that are remembered are the ones that transcend the sport.

I think it's ludicrous that you would mention Pac in the same breath as an Ali or Louis...in terms of transcending the sport.

[smashup]

Baffles me the fight game!!!
It was only a few months ago that Floyd became the richest and highest earning althete in history

[Tam Seddon]

It baffles me that kids want to go to a gym and learn how to hug each other on the floor. Next level boring if you ask me. Nothing is ever going to be as exciting as 12x3 min championship rounds of boxing. Glory k1 is something new and very exciting though, k1 is miles better than MMA. This is a short video of Tyrone Spong in an amazing 30 secs of action. http://youtu.be/JRkQZfw9DSI

Holyfield was at the last glory show and he was very impressed with the action on show.

[Beanflicker]

I'm disappointed that so many people here are that niave to think Floyd leaving the sport is a good thing, or will have no impact on boxing. It's EXTREMELY short-sighted.

During Floyd's time with HBO, his PPV's generated nearly 10 million buys and well over half a billion dollars in revenue. Floyd makes a lot of money for himself, but he also generates a lot of money that goes DIRECTLY back into boxing. Because HBO (and now Showtime) and GBP can make a gaurenteed fortune off of a Mayweather PPV, that gives them the capital to put off other boxing shows. It gives them the ability to invest in trying to create new stars. It stands to reason that the more money that a company generates, the more room it has to produce and expand. Floyd is the biggest cash generator in the history of boxing. The revenue generated by Floyd made it possible for other fighters to be paid and featured on GBP cards.

Right now it's hard enough to even find a boxer outside of Floyd and Pacquiao that's PPV worthy, let alone a guy who can generate over 2 MILLION PPV BUYS like he did with Canelo. And Pac's fight with Rios only did 500k, so he's lost a lot of steam himself with the JMM KO.

So where is the revenue going to come from after Floyd is gone? JMM/bradley did around 300k I think. Even when Floyd fought an opponent nobody gave a fuck about in Guerrero, he reached 1 million.

With no real large draws left, don't be surprised to see TV networks and boxing promotions tightening their belts in regards to the number of shows put on and the purses of the boxers.

[El Kabong]

As small as boxing has gotten in the US boxers still make tons of money and there are still gigantic fights happening in the US. Granted Mayweather is a big part of that but before him there were stars and since those stars have faded others have come around.

One has to look no further than Eastern Europe to see boxing's future. Tens of thousands attending fights, millions watching on TV, boxing is still strong but it's changing.


The Americans will once again produce great fighters for the simple reason that we HAVE to. Also with brain damage becoming a bigger deal in football and other contact sports boxing will no doubt get more participants because it's no longer the worst sport for your brain.

[IamInuit]

I think it will be one of the best things that ever happened to boxing and on multiple levels.

[Beanflicker]

Nobody's bigger than the sport. Nobody.
And it's a world-sport. The sport moves on. Time does its thing as huge Draws become shadows in time...

Someone new comes along, electrifying the masses.
Someone always does.


That's Boxing...

There are a lot of guys bigger than boxing, because boxing as a sport isn't very big on it's own. Muhammad Ali is bigger than the sport of boxing, as is Ray Leonard, Mike Tyson, George Foreman, De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, and Manny Pacquiao. These guys carried the bloated corpse of boxing on their shoulders.

Boxing NEEDS these big draws to keep the money coming in. Boxing doesn't sell itself. And with the popularity surge of the UFC and MMA, it's starting to face new challenges.

The boxer is no longer considered the baddest man on the planet. That honor goes to the UFC champion. And with that downgrade in prestige, a lot of young kids who are potential future boxing greats are stepping into their local MMA gym instead of their local boxing gym, because they want to be Anderson Silva or Jon Jones instead of Andre Ward or GGG.

[Fenster]

Nobody's bigger than the sport. Nobody.
And it's a world-sport. The sport moves on. Time does its thing as huge Draws become shadows in time...

Someone new comes along, electrifying the masses.
Someone always does.


That's Boxing...

There are a lot of guys bigger than boxing, because boxing as a sport isn't very big on it's own. Muhammad Ali is bigger than the sport of boxing, as is Ray Leonard, Mike Tyson, George Foreman, De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, and Manny Pacquiao. These guys carried the bloated corpse of boxing on their shoulders.

Boxing NEEDS these big draws to keep the money coming in. Boxing doesn't sell itself. And with the popularity surge of the UFC and MMA, it's starting to face new challenges.

The boxer is no longer considered the baddest man on the planet. That honor goes to the UFC champion. And with that downgrade in prestige, a lot of young kids who are potential future boxing greats are stepping into their local MMA gym instead of their local boxing gym, because they want to be Anderson Silva or Jon Jones instead of Andre Ward or GGG.

100 years ago "boxing is dead" was being reported. You can trace the same articles throughout history.

When you, and everyone else on this forum, are long dead boxing will still be going. They'll just be a load of other nerds that have taken our place.

[Beanflicker]

100 years ago "boxing is dead" was being reported. You can trace the same articles throughout history.

When you, and everyone else on this forum, are long dead boxing will still be going. They'll just be a load of other nerds that have taken our place.

I'm not saying boxing is going to die. I know it will always be around in some capacity. My worry is how relevant it's going to be in the future.

Boxing has never had any direct competition before. It's had other sports and other forms of media to compete with for the public's attention, but it's never had another combat sport to compete with it. Kickboxing was supposed to kill it in the 80's, but it never took off like people thought it would.

MMA has dethroned boxing as the premiere combat sport. That's just the facts. And I can only see the distance between MMA and boxing widening as big stars like Floyd, Pac, Cotto, ect retire.

[bradlee180]

There are a lot of guys bigger than boxing, because boxing as a sport isn't very big on it's own. Muhammad Ali is bigger than the sport of boxing, as is Ray Leonard, Mike Tyson, George Foreman, De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, and Manny Pacquiao. These guys carried the bloated corpse of boxing on their shoulders.

Boxing NEEDS these big draws to keep the money coming in. Boxing doesn't sell itself. And with the popularity surge of the UFC and MMA, it's starting to face new challenges.

The boxer is no longer considered the baddest man on the planet. That honor goes to the UFC champion. And with that downgrade in prestige, a lot of young kids who are potential future boxing greats are stepping into their local MMA gym instead of their local boxing gym, because they want to be Anderson Silva or Jon Jones instead of Andre Ward or GGG.

MMA is tiny compared to the world sport of boxing.
The only MMA org that survives is the UFC, and the UFC puts on only about 220 pro fights per year.
Boxing puts on 20 thousand pro fights per year.

Boxing puts on about 220 pro bouts EVERY WEEKEND all year long.
Obviously people are making money in Boxing.

Every time Wladimir Klitschko defends his Heavyweight Title in Germany, he sells out a 60 thousand capacity German stadium, for $#!t's sake! He set tv records for most watched broadcast in the history of that country.

Yanks always think the USA is the whole world, but the USA is just 1 country, and there's about 195 other countries around the world. Too many young fellas happily swallow dana white's shovelfuls of bull$#!t when he's promoting his product, without looking at the cold hard facts. If anything, the uFC can't survive in it's present form. It's not sustainable under it's current system. Those MMA fighters' are completely ripped off financially, and their only recourse under the current system is to get organized and form an MMA Fighters Union. Right now, they get totally raped in the @$$ under the UFC's present business model which is a carbon copy of Vince McMahon's WWE pro wrestling. The UFC fights are real of course, but the business model is WWE all the way, baby, complete with non-compete clauses. The much, much larger payouts to top boxers is because there's competition between promoters to sign a fighter whereas in MMA, the UFC is really the only game in town, a monopoly, and the only org that survives...