London will be overrun by 29 million Romanians and Bulgarians

[Dark Lord Al]

Brockton, with respect you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Members of the European community do not need a visa to work in EU countries. You are stirring shit and fostering the stereotype that certain countries and ethnic groups are more criminally inclined than others. You and Miles both think that Britain is as Satan like as the USA so don't pretend that either of you give a damn about illegal immigration. Romanian and Bulgarian citizens are as legally entitled to enter the UK and work as British citizens are free to (and do) work in their countries. Most choose to stay in their own beautiful and warmer countries or to go to Spain,France or Italy. It is very hypocritical of you and Miles to be so bothered about legal migration when neither of you are living or working in the place of your birth. Even more astounding considering you both teach English to students. Students make up a huge part of UK immigration where they pay to study , pay into the UK economy and bring back a good impression to their home country strengthening trade bonds. Immigration is a good thing for the UK and you are both coming across as Xenophobic fear mongerers. Waldorf and Statler crowing from their guilded theatre box as ordinary people try to earn a living, many of them more skilled,educated and talented than the pair of you.

So what's the story behind the Romanians living rough in park lane ? They are bringing what exactly?
Or the millions lost in bogus claims for student loans , then they disappear , and Brock is correct 90% of ATM crime is done by Romanians . Last year I visited San Sebastián in Spain , I asked our guide about crime there , because the basque region has the national police and their own force.
Well his answer was simple, we had very little crime until the Romanians move here , and that my friend is a fact.

Its a selective fact. Of course not ALL immigrants add something, but as a collective they add more than they take. Your logic seems to be that because some will come to take advantage then none should be allowed to come (forgetting of course that we are required by law to allow free migration).
I doubt you have seen many facts supporting your view because its mostly just fear mongering and bigotry and you have fallen for it.

Are you fucking joking? The facts are here my friend , we are full ,we are bust ,we have a dole queue, our health service is done , I do not want any more people from Eastern Europe or Africans coming into England that is my view.
Also the Fact about San Sebastián was just that , you have you head so far in the sand , which is exactly why this country is fucked . It's not racist to say enough I s enough ,
As for the law let them travel ,but don't give them any benefits at all , then see if they think twice.
How dare you single me out , I am not in a minority I can assure you of that , I respect your view , I think your wrong , but in not castigating you for it , for fucks sake , freedom of speach is still allowed as far as I'm aware.

[ryanman]

Brockton, with respect you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Members of the European community do not need a visa to work in EU countries. You are stirring shit and fostering the stereotype that certain countries and ethnic groups are more criminally inclined than others. You and Miles both think that Britain is as Satan like as the USA so don't pretend that either of you give a damn about illegal immigration. Romanian and Bulgarian citizens are as legally entitled to enter the UK and work as British citizens are free to (and do) work in their countries. Most choose to stay in their own beautiful and warmer countries or to go to Spain,France or Italy. It is very hypocritical of you and Miles to be so bothered about legal migration when neither of you are living or working in the place of your birth. Even more astounding considering you both teach English to students. Students make up a huge part of UK immigration where they pay to study , pay into the UK economy and bring back a good impression to their home country strengthening trade bonds. Immigration is a good thing for the UK and you are both coming across as Xenophobic fear mongerers. Waldorf and Statler crowing from their guilded theatre box as ordinary people try to earn a living, many of them more skilled,educated and talented than the pair of you.

So what's the story behind the Romanians living rough in park lane ? They are bringing what exactly?
Or the millions lost in bogus claims for student loans , then they disappear , and Brock is correct 90% of ATM crime is done by Romanians . Last year I visited San Sebastián in Spain , I asked our guide about crime there , because the basque region has the national police and their own force.
Well his answer was simple, we had very little crime until the Romanians move here , and that my friend is a fact.

Its a selective fact. Of course not ALL immigrants add something, but as a collective they add more than they take. Your logic seems to be that because some will come to take advantage then none should be allowed to come (forgetting of course that we are required by law to allow free migration).
I doubt you have seen many facts supporting your view because its mostly just fear mongering and bigotry and you have fallen for it.

Are you fucking joking? The facts are here my friend , we are full ,we are bust ,we have a dole queue, our health service is done , I do not want any more people from Eastern Europe or Africans coming into England that is my view.
Also the Fact about San Sebastián was just that , you have you head so far in the sand , which is exactly why this country is fucked . It's not racist to say enough I s enough ,
As for the law let them travel ,but don't give them any benefits at all , then see if they think twice.
How dare you single me out , I am not in a minority I can assure you of that , I respect your view , I think your wrong , but in not castigating you for it , for fucks sake , freedom of speach is still allowed as far as I'm aware.

I respect your right to an opinion, and I definately have not accused you of being racist. I'm just giving my opinion as you are.
However, you state again there that you don't wish for more Africans or Eastern Europeans to come over, but what about Americans, Australians etc? As I have said they make up the largest number of illegal immigrants in this country. Why don't you have an issue with them?

Also, the facts you state about the dole queue and the country being in a difficult financial situation are fair and true. However, Al, the truth of it is that immigration DOES NOT worsen that situation. I know its easy to think that more people equals less to go around and more on the dole queue. But immigration has over the years BOOSTED our economy. Meaning more money and more jobs for EVERYONE. The vast majority of immigrants do not claim benefits. There is plenty of evidence to support this and not a shred of evidence to the contrary. Nobody in their right mind would want lots of immigrants to come to the UK to claim benefits, of course not, nobody disagrees there, but the truth is that that doesn't happen. Not in signficant numbers. Throughout history immigration has been a vital part of the growth and adaptability of the British economy. In the short term it's easy to see them taking up valuable resources but the truth is more complex and actually contrary to that view.

[Andre]

[Dark Lord Al]

Brockton, with respect you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Members of the European community do not need a visa to work in EU countries. You are stirring shit and fostering the stereotype that certain countries and ethnic groups are more criminally inclined than others. You and Miles both think that Britain is as Satan like as the USA so don't pretend that either of you give a damn about illegal immigration. Romanian and Bulgarian citizens are as legally entitled to enter the UK and work as British citizens are free to (and do) work in their countries. Most choose to stay in their own beautiful and warmer countries or to go to Spain,France or Italy. It is very hypocritical of you and Miles to be so bothered about legal migration when neither of you are living or working in the place of your birth. Even more astounding considering you both teach English to students. Students make up a huge part of UK immigration where they pay to study , pay into the UK economy and bring back a good impression to their home country strengthening trade bonds. Immigration is a good thing for the UK and you are both coming across as Xenophobic fear mongerers. Waldorf and Statler crowing from their guilded theatre box as ordinary people try to earn a living, many of them more skilled,educated and talented than the pair of you.

So what's the story behind the Romanians living rough in park lane ? They are bringing what exactly?
Or the millions lost in bogus claims for student loans , then they disappear , and Brock is correct 90% of ATM crime is done by Romanians . Last year I visited San Sebastián in Spain , I asked our guide about crime there , because the basque region has the national police and their own force.
Well his answer was simple, we had very little crime until the Romanians move here , and that my friend is a fact.

Its a selective fact. Of course not ALL immigrants add something, but as a collective they add more than they take. Your logic seems to be that because some will come to take advantage then none should be allowed to come (forgetting of course that we are required by law to allow free migration).
I doubt you have seen many facts supporting your view because its mostly just fear mongering and bigotry and you have fallen for it.

Are you fucking joking? The facts are here my friend , we are full ,we are bust ,we have a dole queue, our health service is done , I do not want any more people from Eastern Europe or Africans coming into England that is my view.
Also the Fact about San Sebastián was just that , you have you head so far in the sand , which is exactly why this country is fucked . It's not racist to say enough I s enough ,
As for the law let them travel ,but don't give them any benefits at all , then see if they think twice.
How dare you single me out , I am not in a minority I can assure you of that , I respect your view , I think your wrong , but in not castigating you for it , for fucks sake , freedom of speach is still allowed as far as I'm aware.

I respect your right to an opinion, and I definately have not accused you of being racist. I'm just giving my opinion as you are.
However, you state again there that you don't wish for more Africans or Eastern Europeans to come over, but what about Americans, Australians etc? As I have said they make up the largest number of illegal immigrants in this country. Why don't you have an issue with them?

Also, the facts you state about the dole queue and the country being in a difficult financial situation are fair and true. However, Al, the truth of it is that immigration DOES NOT worsen that situation. I know its easy to think that more people equals less to go around and more on the dole queue. But immigration has over the years BOOSTED our economy. Meaning more money and more jobs for EVERYONE. The vast majority of immigrants do not claim benefits. There is plenty of evidence to support this and not a shred of evidence to the contrary. Nobody in their right mind would want lots of immigrants to come to the UK to claim benefits, of course not, nobody disagrees there, but the truth is that that doesn't happen. Not in signficant numbers. Throughout history immigration has been a vital part of the growth and adaptability of the British economy. In the short term it's easy to see them taking up valuable resources but the truth is more complex and actually contrary to that view.

We have never before been in such a poor financial state, so past migration has not been as bigger issue as it will be now.
You also ignored the question , what do we do with the people living rough ,using public parks as camps and toilets?
People who a large majority have been sent home and have returned ?
In case you haven't noticed the posters against your view are plentiful , and we are taxpayers also. As for Australian and USA migrants I have not idea where you get that statement from, I went into Manchester City centre a month ago and I have to be honest heard no Aussie or American accents but saw plenty of beggars and heard plenty of Eastern European accents , this also is a fact . Also I have no idea of you age or job which may explain your point of view , I know not many want more strain on the financial state.

[Master]

Watched a documentary yesterday and a pharmacist from romania who had the choice of any country in Europe to choose from and she chose Dudley. Poor girl.

[Dark Lord Al]

Watched a documentary yesterday and a pharmacist from romania who had the choice of any country in Europe to choose from and she chose Dudley. Poor girl.

Master we both know why she chose it.

" Dudley , is Blumin luvlay"

[VictorCharlie]

I'd like to point out that this time it was not me calling Miles a bigot.

[Gandalf]

Greenbeanz himself is a relatively recent immigrant and on that basis would obviously despise anything that would threaten him. He does mch the same over the Paralympics. However, when it comes to tings that were seemingly there before him such as the monarchy, then we mustn't ever say a bad word. Greenbeanz is as easy to read as a not terribly interesting book. In fact I gave up reading his daft post after the ludicrious assertion that Suede or Morrissey are right wing. I really see little to support the case that Morrissey is actually right wing having read the mans autobiography. As for Suede, well there is nothing in history to suggest as much. Greenbeanz is obviously an idiot.

Having just done a quick skim, all I actually see from him is a very long character assassination with very little points being made on this thread at all. But that is because Greenbeanz has no points or evidence. Most Polish people are not qualified to work in Universities around the world. It is just not true, so instead he will get personal with me and Brockton because that is the only thing he can do. Pathetic, senile old man. It would be very easy to make every point personal and be very horrible but I won't. Instead I will just call him a cunt.

Any man should defend himself with mace as you get a criminal record if you don't. Of course I would spray it in the face of violent foes. What a cunt.

[Gandalf]

Terrorists are largely homegrown and are a product of our foreign policy. Another thing to think about when allowing uncontrolled immigration, though as the men say Britain actually subsidises militant Muslims. The leaders are all wrong and it is they who subsidise terror, allow terrorists in, and then decide that they need to spy on all to keep everyone safe! Hilarious in a not so funny way.

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