Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
Complete rose-coloured glasses I'm afraid. Joe Louis demonstratably has trouble slipping punches. David Haye vs Wladimir Klitschko, made the long range, fast and accurate Wladimir miss all night, only 25% punch accuracy from the champ!

Haye barely sustains any damage whole career, Louis was a punch bag. Haye fought and beat giant boxers with condition and skill Louis outsized 90%! of his opponents, of the 6 bigger boxers he faced, only 3 were real giants and they were all complete oafs. Haye was outgunned at HW in all his fights!

Louis was bested by cruiser Max Scmelling, dropped by an emporer penguin, a danny DeVito look alike in Tony Galento. Haye would not be allowed to KO Schmelling and would laugh at Galento.

I'm sorry but either you cannot have watched Haye's fights, have seen them and know I'm right but are trying to cover it up or you have some special issues if you don't think Haye is slick at all.

Same for Louis. If you really watch Louis one can only conclude is that his performance relative to today is not very impressive.

Joe Louis never fought anybody like David Haye more like it, if Joe Louis had decent coaching like Haye he might be as polished as Haye, THAT's more like it. And Haye has fought opponents like Louis before... In the Amatuers!

It's interesting to note though that you implied the truth, that the modern division is one of the MOST active of all time and the Louis and Dempsey eras were exceptions.

However you alluded to but didn't complete the picture- The HW era then was a combined CW+HW era. If you take CW and HW eras together today then guess what.. You find there were MORE fights now!

And another even more important point- there are comparable fights now even despite the fact that those old guys fought for a dollar and a meal ticket every month or so where as the modern HW fights only 3 times a year. Kind of shits all over the nobody is interested in boxing anymore theory doesn't it!
Your "insightful" comments about Haye vs Klit would only be relevant if Haye had won so much as ONE ROUND... He lost the whole fight... Start to finish. So it doesn't matter what Klitschko's connect percentage was because Haye did FUCKALL!!!

Haye beat giant boxers with no skill or stamina. Yes they were bigger. Were they utter shit? YES!!! Is Valuev a good fighter despite the fact that he is bigger than most old school heavyweights? NO! He sucks no matter what era he fought in. I'd pick any of the TOP current middleweight, supermiddle, light heavy or cruiserweights to beat Valuev. That fucking giant was a JOKE!

The fact that Louis had tough fights over the course of his career attests to the skills of the opponents at the time not to the skills of the current HW fighters who are steroid using fat fucks or pseudo giants with little or no co-ordination.

As for your comments about SIZE... POUND 4POUND given all the opportunities of DIET, MEDICINE, SCIENCE and STEROIDS the greats of yesteryear would have KICKED the ASSES of the FAT FUCKS of today.

Your limited agenda has been exposed. Stop trying to argue the same point over and over again.

Get a girlfriend. Start banging your mom. Date a dude.... Whatever it takes, but stop trying to change facts. You look like sad fucking moron every time.