Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
i would say that a lot of boxers would admit that they would lose to past fighters. now maybe ones with certain personalities like floyd may never admit it whether or not he truly believes it, but i would bet you that most cruisers today would admit that they lose to joe louis.
Really. Let's ask Wladimir Klitschko how he thinks he would perform too against Muhammad Ali, or Chris Arreola, another brutally honest contender? Let's ask Mike Tyson or Evander Holyfield what he thinks of his honest chances vs Joe Louis? I know they will want to show respect. But I also know what their answer will be! And I like it how you singled out the CW's against Joe Louis, you were apparently hesitant to compare him to the HW's now

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Yeah on your last part I said something similar above, because of have been so brash about this topic a lot of guys now obviously will have the idea that I hate the old timers and have no respect. That's simply not true. I definitely do. I love boxing and if it wasn't for great champions of the past we wouldn't HAVE boxing as it is. I believe as you have said that you should only judge a champions performance against the criteria of his day and in doing that.. OF COURSE Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali etc are some of the greatest champions to have ever lived.

I would never, have never, disputed that!

P4P with equal nutrition, steroids and scientific training methods, the old fighters would WHOOP the ASSES of the new generation of heavyweights.

Just like Maidana did Broner.

They're cut from a different cloth!