Yeah I hear you, just saying. Obviously Marquez was still pretty damn good at that point, Floyd just didn't let him show it. Mosley was coming off the Margarito fight and nobody was calling him shot beforehand. If Floyd did fight Manny or Martinez today and beat them, those guys would be even easier to discredit after the fact, that was my point. I agree with you on Lara, that's realistically the biggest challenge for Floyd by a mile imo and it will never happen between the style and low profile of the Cuban. Could Golovkin even make 154, has he expressed any interest in doing so? Thats a guy who needs to ramp up his opposition in a big way himself.