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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Markez : Pacquiao Should Fight Maywether Not Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i can remember the third tho if youd like to discuss it
    I'd love to know a) how you scored it and b) why you thought Manny won the majority of those rounds.
    i cant remember exactly how i scored it

    but i definately thought Manny won the majority of the rounds

    manny was by far the aggressor and landed more punches in most rounds, marquez was backing up and pot shotting him and maybe landing the more eye catching punches but a lot less of them

    if you pick the 3 rounds that were most clearly won you would pick 3 rounds marquez won, the rest were close rounds which i thought manny won the vast majority of

    if you pick the 10 best punches in the fight they would probably be marquez punches which were probably by far and away the best 10 punches of the fight, if you were to pick the best 100 punches then 70 would probably be mannys

    its just my opinion and i am completely impartial
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    I also think words like robbery and a schoolling dont apply in the marquez pac fights because opinion is so divided

    they were obviously all very close fights
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    I also think words like robbery and a schoolling dont apply in the marquez pac fights because opinion is so divided

    they were obviously all very close fights
    being a close fight doesnt mean that it isnt a robbery. i thought that JMM won the third fight 116-112. on my scorecard, it was relatively close as in if there were 2 close rounds that i gave to JMM instead of pac, it created a JMM win instead of a draw. but the difference is that in that fight there were mostly clear winners for each round. their second fight had a lot more toss up rounds while the 1st and 3rd didnt.

    for example, if during a 12 round fight, fighter #1 scored a KD in 7 of the 12 rounds and fighter #2 scored a KD in the other 5 rounds. lets assume that the KDs were clear and the person who got the kd was winning the round. so essentially, every round was a 10-8 round and in the end, the fight was close, but it would be a robbery if fighter #2 won because he clearly won 7 rounds. that is how i feel about their 3rd fight in particular. even though it wasnt a blowout, marquez clearly won at least 7 rounds which would make it a robbery if he didnt win the fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    I also think words like robbery and a schoolling dont apply in the marquez pac fights because opinion is so divided

    they were obviously all very close fights
    being a close fight doesnt mean that it isnt a robbery. i thought that JMM won the third fight 116-112. on my scorecard, it was relatively close as in if there were 2 close rounds that i gave to JMM instead of pac, it created a JMM win instead of a draw. but the difference is that in that fight there were mostly clear winners for each round. their second fight had a lot more toss up rounds while the 1st and 3rd didnt.

    for example, if during a 12 round fight, fighter #1 scored a KD in 7 of the 12 rounds and fighter #2 scored a KD in the other 5 rounds. lets assume that the KDs were clear and the person who got the kd was winning the round. so essentially, every round was a 10-8 round and in the end, the fight was close, but it would be a robbery if fighter #2 won because he clearly won 7 rounds. that is how i feel about their 3rd fight in particular. even though it wasnt a blowout, marquez clearly won at least 7 rounds which would make it a robbery if he didnt win the fight.
    I agree if there was a fight like that then there could be a robbery, and I don't think there would be too much split opinion, I think most would agree

    none of the pac marquez fights were, they were full of close rounds

    perhaps I am swayed by the aggressor in fights I don't know, but in the third pac was on the front foot throughout and was pushing the fight, marquez most of the time was landing only because pac was pushing for it and committing and I don't think he was outlanding pac, his punches at times may have looked nicer because pac was coming on to them

    eitherway the fight was definitely not a robbery and pac was definitely not schooled
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    Default Re: Juan Manuel Markez : Pacquiao Should Fight Maywether Not Me

    pac couldnt get going the whole fight. he had a few good shots but everytime he came in, JMM countered him. pac tried to be the aggressor but was stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    pac couldnt get going the whole fight. he had a few good shots but everytime he came in, JMM countered him. pac tried to be the aggressor but was stopped.
    thats fine if thats the way you saw it
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    I thought Mexican warriors don't turn down fights?

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