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    If a person is born black, white or brown its pretty obvious that its out of their control and you were just born that way.

    Imho everyone has their own path to do what they want to do in THEIR life.

    But, its not natural for a man to sleep with another man no matter what anyones opinion be in evanders eyes.
    Imagine your young son or daughter accidently seeing a couple of dudes snogging in the park or whatever i dont think its fair to lie to them and say that its natural.

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    Default Re: Holyfield in hot water after making anti-gay comment on big brother

    This is just hype to watch this show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    This is just hype to watch this show.
    Its working. I just watched it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    If a person is born black, white or brown its pretty obvious that its out of their control and you were just born that way.

    Imho everyone has their own path to do what they want to do in THEIR life.

    But, its not natural for a man to sleep with another man no matter what anyones opinion be in evanders eyes.
    Imagine your young son or daughter accidently seeing a couple of dudes snogging in the park or whatever i dont think its fair to lie to them and say that its natural.
    If they were gay they wouldn't find it unnatural until their parent told them so. Which still wouldn't stop them from being gay, just make their life a misery.
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    What is the rule now. Is it inappropriate to say anything against a man taking it up the ass? Did Evander refer to the Bible when he made the comments. I haven't seen the show or the clip it just seems like people are hypersensitive when it comes to the topic. Someone who enjoys getting something shoved up their ass has no effect on me but it does seem a little nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    What is the rule now. Is it inappropriate to say anything against a man taking it up the ass? Did Evander refer to the Bible when he made the comments. I haven't seen the show or the clip it just seems like people are hypersensitive when it comes to the topic. Someone who enjoys getting something shoved up their ass has no effect on me but it does seem a little nasty.
    People are scared to be politically incorrect... like robots.. they are brain washed by the media..

    It's downright disgusting and immoral for a dude to get fudge packed.. c mon a normal male couldnt think like that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    What is the rule now. Is it inappropriate to say anything against a man taking it up the ass? Did Evander refer to the Bible when he made the comments. I haven't seen the show or the clip it just seems like people are hypersensitive when it comes to the topic. Someone who enjoys getting something shoved up their ass has no effect on me but it does seem a little nasty.
    People are scared to be politically incorrect... like robots.. they are brain washed by the media..

    It's downright disgusting and immoral for a dude to get fudge packed.. c mon a normal male couldnt think like that..
    You don't think that you've been conditioned to hold that opinion. Only people who don't follow your line of thinking have been brainwashed? irony at it's worst.

    Homsexuality ISN'T 'normal', it doesn't have to be... that doesn't mean that it is immoral or 'wrong'.

    I wonder why you are so threatened by it? I doubt you can give more than a vague, weak answer, you can't come up with actual reasoning because it is just a belief that society has installed into you, not one you've reached on your own. Ironically you think that people that are not threatened by and can accept those that are different to the norm are the ones whom are brainwashed. No. They're the ones that can reason logically for themselves.
    You're really not very bright, something I doubt you'll ever grasp.

    'Brainwashed'... lol! The whole cliched alpha male stereotype that you try so desperately to conform to is fucking brainwashing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    But, its not natural for a man to sleep with another man no matter what anyones opinion be in evanders eyes.
    Imagine your young son or daughter accidently seeing a couple of dudes snogging in the park or whatever i dont think its fair to lie to them and say that its natural.
    I agree it's not natural, but what is natural about heterosexual relationships? Is it natural to wear a condom? No, sex is supposed to be procreation. Having sex for any other reason than trying to make a child isn't natural. Is shooting a load on a chick's tits, in her mouth or bum, is that natural? Where do you see that in nature? Where do you see bondage, S&M, roleplaying, ect in nature? In nature, the male drops his load and takes off most often. Marriage itself is very unnatural, which I guess is why it mostly doesn't work out.

    People say "it's not natural" about homosexuals like it's supposed to be something damning, that it justifies the hate against them. But what even about our everyday lives is natural? We're supposed to be hunter/gatherers. Being able to go to the fridge/grocery store/drive thru whenever we're hungry is unnatural (which is why there are so many fat motherfuckers). Sitting down all day is unnatural.

    What about us even as a species is natural?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    But, its not natural for a man to sleep with another man no matter what anyones opinion be in evanders eyes.
    Imagine your young son or daughter accidently seeing a couple of dudes snogging in the park or whatever i dont think its fair to lie to them and say that its natural.
    I agree it's not natural, but what is natural about heterosexual relationships? Is it natural to wear a condom? No, sex is supposed to be procreation. Having sex for any other reason than trying to make a child isn't natural. Is shooting a load on a chick's tits, in her mouth or bum, is that natural? Where do you see that in nature? Where do you see bondage, S&M, roleplaying, ect in nature? In nature, the male drops his load and takes off most often. Marriage itself is very unnatural, which I guess is why it mostly doesn't work out.

    People say "it's not natural" about homosexuals like it's supposed to be something damning, that it justifies the hate against them. But what even about our everyday lives is natural? We're supposed to be hunter/gatherers. Being able to go to the fridge/grocery store/drive thru whenever we're hungry is unnatural (which is why there are so many fat motherfuckers). Sitting down all day is unnatural.

    What about us even as a species is natural?
    Wearing a condom is not natural but is essential if you dont want catch such fatal diseases like hiv.

    Theres lots of ways to catch stds but using a condom is common sense.

    How long is a piece of string? How deep do you want to go with this natural stuff beanflicker?

    Lets stay on topic and not accuse those of being hateful just because they dont find putting their penise in another mans anus..natural.

    You mentioned obesity which i agree with and its not natural for us a humans to be getting fatter and fatter but eating too many donuts is a bit different from eating other types of anatomy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    How long is a piece of string? How deep do you want to go with this natural stuff beanflicker?

    Lets stay on topic and not accuse those of being hateful just because they dont find putting their penise in another mans anus..natural.

    You mentioned obesity which i agree with and its not natural for us a humans to be getting fatter and fatter but eating too many donuts is a bit different from eating other types of anatomy.
    I didn't accuse anyone of being hateful because they don't find homosexuality natural. The first thing I said in reply to your post was that I agree that homosexuality is not natural.

    My point is that whether homosexuality is "natural" or not is irrelevant because there's basically nothing about our culture and the way we live anymore that's natural.

    These are just pointless arguments. "Well homosexuality doesn't prolong the species". Well we have too many people on the planet as it is. We need less people making babies. And if that's the reason to hate gays, that they don't prolong the species, than why not hate people who jerk off, or people who are swore into celibacy, or people who just can't get laid?

    The world is changing, attitudes are changing, and this nonsense that Holyfield and like-minded people are spouting is getting left in the dust.

    It's not just about having an opinion. Holyfield and others who think that homosexuality is something that can (or should) be cured are just retarded, plain and simple.

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    We left "natural" thousands of years ago. I don't know why people bring up this "natural" nonsense.

    "Natural" is a word used to sell products. It has no other relevance or practical applications in our current culture, unless you live in a tribe in the rain forrest somewhere.

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    Holyfield is one of my heroes & I felt let down by this..

    I'd rather talk about his tremendous boxing achievements not his myopic view of the world.

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    Default Re: Holyfield in hot water after making anti-gay comment on big brother

    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan-B-Howell View Post
    Holyfield is one of my heroes & I felt let down by this..

    I'd rather talk about his tremendous boxing achievements not his myopic view of the world.
    thing is he was asked what his opinion was and he gave it. It was just that, an opinion. I don't agree with him but all the shit he's got for it is out of proportion as far as I'm concerned. I think it's far more damaging what the rest of those no talent attentionwhores are up to in there. He's how you get famous, sleep with someone's husband and leak a sex tape! Great role model! At least Holyfield had to work hard for years his fame, these bitches drop their knickers and it's seen as a career move to aspire to. Fuck yourselves and keep on fucking off.

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