Terry Norris " Mayweather with all that slapping and running "

[Master]

Yeah, you're right, Meldrick was a far superior combination puncher, not a 1-off pot-shot guy like Floyd.

Yeah and as a result he got hit a lot more and sounds like he has 20 pieces of Hubba Bubba in his mouth when he talks.

You gotta know when to punch and when not to punch, Meldrick obviously didn't have that knowledge.

Meldrick was a quality boxer and probably had faster hands than Floyd. Yes the big difference between them is that Floyd "runs" more than Taylor stood and took unnecessary punishment. Terry still beats Floyd.

[Beanflicker]

Meldrick was a quality boxer and probably had faster hands than Floyd. Yes the big difference between them is that Floyd "runs" more than Taylor stood and took unnecessary punishment. Terry still beats Floyd.

Meldrick might have been a faster combo puncher, but Floyd was quicker with the one shot, and more importantly Floyd was a lot more accurate.

Meldrick wasn't even in Floyd's league in his prime, let alone when he fought Terry Norris.

But hey, I'm not saying Terry Norris couldn't beat Floyd at 154, I'm not even saying he couldn't knock Floyd out. But if you're telling me that he's going to do to Floyd what he did to Meldrick, just blast him out of there like a bum, you're nuts!

[Master]

Meldrick was a quality boxer and probably had faster hands than Floyd. Yes the big difference between them is that Floyd "runs" more than Taylor stood and took unnecessary punishment. Terry still beats Floyd.

Meldrick might have been a faster combo puncher, but Floyd was quicker with the one shot, and more importantly Floyd was a lot more accurate.

Meldrick wasn't even in Floyd's league in his prime, let alone when he fought Terry Norris.

But hey, I'm not saying Terry Norris couldn't beat Floyd at 154, I'm not even saying he couldn't knock Floyd out. But if you're telling me that he's going to do to Floyd what he did to Meldrick, just blast him out of there like a bum, you're nuts!

You really cannot be objective when it comes to Floyd, when people point out weaknesees you do not accept them. OK, Terry may not have blasted out Floyd early but he would more than likely win.

I just watched his second disqualification against Santana? (forgot his name) and Norris was mortified he was disqualified again. He did have a tendandcy to self destruct at times. So maybe Floyd wins via a disqualification.

[J_Undisputed]

moreover it looks like a generation of volume punching athletes and stylists vs. a generation of hardened boxers. Good thing Floyd is a throwback of sorts and doesnt just look to windmill/shoeshine you. The problem i see in this equation is the fact that while everyones saying norris has never seen someone like floyd. Floyd has never seen someone like norris. It goes without saying that the shot mosely landed, the melee from judah, the roughhousing by ortiz and the swarming by castillo, could all happen in the same night against floyd with the way Norris fought. Now its quite possible that Norris could have been dropped repeatedly like corrales because he didnt have the best chin. The thing that makes norris scary in this scenario is that he plain didnt give a damn.... so holding his arm like was done with mosely would have probably gotten floyd body slammed. the drama of the cup and headbutt reactions would have been met with more punches not hugs. Norris was an animal.

Nutritionist/strength and conditioning coaches and modern training benefits would prepare floyd to absorb more punishment that probably most of norris's opponents endured then retaliate. Floyds boxing and ring generalship lands a lot of punches but Floyd hasnt knocked anyone out without suckerpunches since Hatton 7 years ago. So it comes down to the imposing of wills... withought a lot of help from the ref, norris is not going to be deterred by a forearm or elbows. Floyds built to stay fresher through the end of the fight but his offense and defense arent made to handle norris's persistence at the natural weight disparity. I dont think norris can make it through the fight without being DQ'd but it would depend on if floyd was dropped and how he reacted to that. We've never seen floyd go tooth and nail with someone. The ref plays a big part in this one. Floyd has more ways to win but i doubt he'd be the same after the fight unless it ended early.

[bradlee180]

moreover it looks like a generation of volume punching athletes and stylists vs. a generation of hardened boxers. Good thing Floyd is a throwback of sorts and doesnt just look to windmill/shoeshine you.

Interesting observation. Throwback in some ways but not in others.

Floyd indeed has old school skills and veteran tricks, stuff that many other current guys do not have these days. That's why there's currently several comparatively limited fighters holding titles or are top contenders in comparison to say the 80s or 70s.

Unfortunately, Floyd has lacked that old school mentality of fighting the best at their best.
In the last two years, he's been fighting the top challenges, top prime guys like Alvarez and Ortiz and Guerrero. He deserves credit for that especially considering 36 year old Floyd currently isn't as fast as he once was yet he's still outboxing them.

It's really a shame that he didn't fight all those top prime guys there were circa 2002 till 2010. He probably would've beat most of them, but he wouldn't sign to fight them at their best because he might lose, and he wouldn't sign unless he was sure he would win.

Looks like he's trying to make the most of the time left here at the tail-end of his career.

[Beanflicker]

You really cannot be objective when it comes to Floyd, when people point out weaknesees you do not accept them. OK, Terry may not have blasted out Floyd early but he would more than likely win.

For sure I can be objective about Floyd. I think he's as big a douchebag as everyone else does, but I'm not going to let the fact that I don't like him personally cloud my judgement of his in ring ability.

Like I said, if you think Terry Norris beats Floyd at 154lbs, that's completely fine. I have no problem with that. I'd pick Floyd to edge him out, but personally I think it's a toss up fight. In no way do I think it's a slam dunk for Mayweather. Terry could very well have knocked him out.

But the problem is, a lot of people either can't or refuse to grasp just how good Mayweather is in the ring. If you're comparing him to Meldrick Taylor, you really don't have a solid grasp of Mayweather's ability. If you're like Spicoli and you're saying that Mosley lost because he voluntarily stopped fighting after he rocked Floyd, you really don't have a solid grasp of Mayweather's ability. Not that I think you guys are ignorant, I just think you're letting your bias against Mayweather negatively effect your view of his in-ring abilities.

Floyd's flaws? What flaws were pointed out? That fast hands give him trouble? Who the fuck isn't troubled by fast hands? I don't consider it a weakness but as I said, Floyd has adjusted to every fast guy he's fought and dominated.

The guy's undefeated for a reason, and it's not the reason most people here believe (that he doesn't fight anybody good). He's been fighting on the championship level since 1998.

[Master]

You really cannot be objective when it comes to Floyd, when people point out weaknesees you do not accept them. OK, Terry may not have blasted out Floyd early but he would more than likely win.

For sure I can be objective about Floyd. I think he's as big a douchebag as everyone else does, but I'm not going to let the fact that I don't like him personally cloud my judgement of his in ring ability.

Like I said, if you think Terry Norris beats Floyd at 154lbs, that's completely fine. I have no problem with that. I'd pick Floyd to edge him out, but personally I think it's a toss up fight. In no way do I think it's a slam dunk for Mayweather. Terry could very well have knocked him out.

But the problem is, a lot of people either can't or refuse to grasp just how good Mayweather is in the ring. If you're comparing him to Meldrick Taylor, you really don't have a solid grasp of Mayweather's ability. If you're like Spicoli and you're saying that Mosley lost because he voluntarily stopped fighting after he rocked Floyd, you really don't have a solid grasp of Mayweather's ability. Not that I think you guys are ignorant, I just think you're letting your bias against Mayweather negatively effect your view of his in-ring abilities.

Floyd's flaws? What flaws were pointed out? That fast hands give him trouble? Who the fuck isn't troubled by fast hands? I don't consider it a weakness but as I said, Floyd has adjusted to every fast guy he's fought and dominated.

The guy's undefeated for a reason, and it's not the reason most people here believe (that he doesn't fight anybody good). He's been fighting on the championship level since 1998.

Just because the guy is undefeated does not mean he has no weaknesses.

[Beanflicker]

Just because the guy is undefeated does not mean he has no weaknesses.

I never said he didn't. But I don't know what his weaknesses are and I've never heard anybody point out a real legit "weakness". A "weakness" suggests that a guy has a trait/skill/ect that is below what you'd expect for a professional (or in this case, champion) boxer.

You said if a guy could match handspeed with him, it could give him trouble. I think that's true for any fighter that ever lived. Nobody wants to fight a guy who's as fast or faster than they are. Speed troubles everyone.

I'm no Floyd nuthugger, I'm open to any criticism about his skills. If you think he has a real weakness, let me know what it is. What does Floyd do shitty? His power is mediocre at the higher weights, but not to the point where I'd call it a weakness.

[Beanflicker]

He has weak hands that are prone to breaking, and he doesn't have one-punch KO power at 147 and above. That's all I can think of. If anyone has any others to add to the list, let me know.

[Master]

Just because the guy is undefeated does not mean he has no weaknesses.

I never said he didn't. But I don't know what his weaknesses are and I've never heard anybody point out a real legit "weakness". A "weakness" suggests that a guy has a trait/skill/ect that is below what you'd expect for a professional (or in this case, champion) boxer.

You said if a guy could match handspeed with him, it could give him trouble. I think that's true for any fighter that ever lived. Nobody wants to fight a guy who's as fast or faster than they are. Speed troubles everyone.

I'm no Floyd nuthugger, I'm open to any criticism about his skills. If you think he has a real weakness, let me know what it is. What does Floyd do shitty? His power is mediocre at the higher weights, but not to the point where I'd call it a weakness.

It is a weakness because it will not put off a great big light middleweight like Norris, Mcallum or Hearns. They would take chances that they would not ordinarily take just so they could hurt him.

[Spicoli]

You really cannot be objective when it comes to Floyd, when people point out weaknesees you do not accept them. OK, Terry may not have blasted out Floyd early but he would more than likely win.

For sure I can be objective about Floyd. I think he's as big a douchebag as everyone else does, but I'm not going to let the fact that I don't like him personally cloud my judgement of his in ring ability.

Like I said, if you think Terry Norris beats Floyd at 154lbs, that's completely fine. I have no problem with that. I'd pick Floyd to edge him out, but personally I think it's a toss up fight. In no way do I think it's a slam dunk for Mayweather. Terry could very well have knocked him out.

But the problem is, a lot of people either can't or refuse to grasp just how good Mayweather is in the ring. If you're comparing him to Meldrick Taylor, you really don't have a solid grasp of Mayweather's ability. If you're like Spicoli and you're saying that Mosley lost because he voluntarily stopped fighting after he rocked Floyd, you really don't have a solid grasp of Mayweather's ability. Not that I think you guys are ignorant, I just think you're letting your bias against Mayweather negatively effect your view of his in-ring abilities.

Floyd's flaws? What flaws were pointed out? That fast hands give him trouble? Who the fuck isn't troubled by fast hands? I don't consider it a weakness but as I said, Floyd has adjusted to every fast guy he's fought and dominated.

The guy's undefeated for a reason, and it's not the reason most people here believe (that he doesn't fight anybody good). He's been fighting on the championship level since 1998.

Dude is it really necassary for you to twist shit up like that Thats not what I said. Mosley was only winning that fight by a ko, he hurt him, his corner did not emphasis or push it...thats fighting a dumb fucking fight. If you honestly think us ignit folk cannot see Mayweathers ability regardless and think Mosley 'let him back in' you might be the one in need of a grip and sporting a bias?. I'm pretty aware of the cause-effect during a bout after almost 3 decades and one man over another deciding how it evolves. Clearly ya think a bias is simply saying another fighter has a chance cause he got nothing but respect form this one here ffs.