Firstly Pac is not a known juicer. If it wasnt for Floyd publicly bashing him no one would say sht about Pac juicing (Until Roach's punk ass threw his own fighter under the rug)
There were way more reasons than drug testing as of why they didnt fight. Drug testing is just what Floyd bashed Pac about to make Pac look bad and make himself look good.
As for Roach, imo he lost a lot of respect from me. You dont say sht like that about any fighter and the fact he said it about his own disappoints me badly. It looks to me like hes trying to save his own ass and name cause one of his old associates got busted.
Im against PED's more than anyone believe me but you dont ruin someones name by throwing accusations out there even if you really believe it.
If Floyd really believed this about Pac he should have been a professional and kept it to himself. If the drug testing was the only reason this fight didnt happen I would side with Floyd more but from what I understand it wasnt even the main reason.
Pac is no more of a proven juicer than any other fighter who has never failed a test.
Last edited by cambay411; 01-11-2014 at 08:55 AM.
I believe Floyd would beat Manny by decision.
But, it quite possible he sees something in Pacquaio he's never seen before, compares their performances against common opponents and thinks to himself "This guy COULD beat me so fuck it ill keep fighting the sure thing."
I think Pacquiao would now agree to whatever drug testing Floyd would demand. Pacquiao underwent VADA drug testing in his most recent fight against Rios.
VADA, USADA, nada ... I think Pacquiao will agree to it.
Pac is desperate and off the juice so now he wants to talk shit. He should have taken the test back in 2010.
You realize the main reason Pac didnt agree to the fight was Floyd demanded like 60% and the ring size Floyd demanded?
Floyd made obnoxious the demands, Pac denied them in negotiations (as fighters always do) then Floyd ran with it and never made any more negotiations.
People even tried to blame Arum for it not happening but its been Floyd the whole time. He made one offer, Pac didnt cater to his demands and Floyd ran and never looked back.
Floyd blamed it on the drug testing and ever since has been "trying to clean up the sport".
Do you think Floyd has never fought a fighter on PED's?
Floyd could very well be right in his accusations. Nonetheless he would probably win the fight imo. I think hes handled the situation badly.
Last edited by cambay411; 01-11-2014 at 02:52 PM.
So many people are quite happy to overlook that pac just got sparked out by marquez and got beat by an injured bradley (bad judging).
Is this all every person can say to just make themselves feel better?
Why pac even mentioning floyd when he cant even beat his stablemates?!
Why doesnt pac step up in weight and fight a young canelo instead of punchbags like rios that is an actual lightweight.
Pac can and never will dethrone floyd and he just not on the same level.
Would a gunshy pac even beat khan?
I think it's pretty amazing how quickly boxing fans can turn for and against a fighter.
After the JMM loss, the overall consensus was that Pac was passed it and should retire. Interest was largely given up on a Pac/Mayweather fight. Instead of opinions being divided on who would win the hypothetical Pac/PBF showdown, all of a sudden it went almost unanimously in Floyd's favor. The logic was that if JMM could give Pac so much problems with his speed and counter punching abilities, what chance would Pac have against a guy like PBF, who had much more speed and counter punching ability than JMM. I know there were exceptions and people that still stuck with Pac, but I think this was the general consensus.
Now that's all changed. And what changed it? A win over Brandon Rios, who was a tailor-made, hand picked patsy who was coming off a loss and had been fighting at 135 only a year ago. So with that win, Pac shot right back up to the status he had in 2010, and for the life of me I can't figure out why. Are boxing fans that easily swindled?
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All this retirement from Pac, his trainer, his wife, his fans, his countrymen, and it all went away after he beat a guy who had 0 chance against him.
Oscar demanded everything and guess what..floyd accepted and beat him.
Starting to sound like really bad eggs with all this floyd ducking stuff.
Pac cant even beat a 40 yr old past prime marquez who knocked him down twice!
Pac has nowhere to go as marquez wont fight him again and does he realky want to fight an uninjured undefeated bradley for not much money?
We know Floyd is highly favored to beat Pacquiao but I still want to see a Floyd vs Pacquiao fight compared to seeing Floyd vs Khan or Floyd vs Maidana fights.
Been awhile since I have posted here...Just want to give my 2 cent on May/Pac
First off...I`m A big fan of both fighter`s,with that being said...It`s very hard for me to believe that anyone would think that either of these Two are "scared" of One another..Silly really...Mayweather is A absolute Boxing prodigy..Maybe the very best to ever enter A Boxing ring,if he is not he is certainly in the discussion,has been fighting his entire life,has fought,smaller,bigger,faster,stronger,longer,talle r...and has seen it all...Absolute dedicated student of the game....
Pac,is A pure fighter from the top of his head,to the bottom of his toes,and comes from A place where he(Pac)would probably fight A world class opponent every week if HBO would pay him..Pac has been fighting like Mayweather since he was A Kid,..and is A Great fighter in his own right...Point is...They are not afraid of each other.....For those who say Mayweather is scared to lose his "0"...That tells me you are A novice fight fan,who has not watched enough Boxing to know that.....Boxing is not pre-scripted..Too many huge upsets to even list...Mayweather could have lost to any One of his opponents...Moseley could have KO`d him when they fought,..Canelo with his size advantage could have done the same,or Corrales,who was A murderous puncher @130...Point is neither One is "Scared" of the other...When A big fight like this does not take place there are reasons for it,and the reason for this fight not happening is simple....Bob Arum...
It is no secret that Bob used to promote Mayweather,and DelaHoya,during that time Arum had A huge stable of well paid fighter`s,but that was not to last,Oscar flew the ship,huge Cash Cow gone there,and then Mayweather in the smartest move he ever made,bought out his contract,and then the Two went on to have the biggest PPV in history...without Uncle Bob....Arum latched onto Pac and turned him into A huge PPV attraction...Makeing tons of money fighting all the fighter`s in the Top Rank stable...In house Money,nothing new there...Arum absolutely despises Oscar and Floyd,and after promoting Mayweather as long as he did,Arum knows better than anybody else,that the One fighter in the entire sport of Boxing that is capable of beating A world class fighter like Pac,with the type of dominateing myth busting Ass whupping is Mayweather,who uses none other then Oscar DelaHoya as his promoter...Now why would Arum want to risk his Money Maker by sacrificeing him to Oscar and Floyd..?
Answer,...He would`nt,and so he did what any promoter would do,he built Pac up against his own fighter`s and kept the Money in house...As of now,..Pac has exhausted all of his options,and provided some great fight`s along the way...At this point it is very clear...Arum is ready to cash out with Pac,it`s been A hell of A run...So know Pac is willing to take drug test,when he had every excuse in the book to not take them before,we are not hearing any Bullshit about temporary outdoor stadiums or the rest of the excuses Arum has made on Pac`s behalf...Pac and Arum need Mayweather at this point...Pac`s PPv numbers in his last fight put the writeing on the wall....And,..as A added bonus...Look what Arum has done to his Prized Fighter...Pac`s Bank account`s frozen in his own Country,Tax Dog`s here in the States barking up his tree..?....Really Sad...Arum should be very ashamed of how he has cheated Pac....I understand why the fight has not happenned...and it is not because they fear each other...
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