David Haye: "I hope Wlad beats Leapai and I can get a rematch"

[El Kabong]

So basically it boils down to this: David Haye is an asshole and Tyson Fury is a fucking moron

You write shit like that and want people to take you serious?

Your offered £5 million and a win over Wlads most dangerous opponent and you would turn it down?

Wlad must be a moron too as he signed to fight him after all the other let downs.

YES because I've called Haye out from the get go and all he's done is prove my assessment of him to be 100% correct.

#1. NOT WITHOUT MAKING A PLAN IN CASE HAYE BACKED OUT

#2. Haye hadn't officially outed himself as a coward until his move to heavyweight. Wlad was the first fighter Haye ran his little game on and the Klitschko's haven't been suckered into dealing with him again. Haye wanted to play hardball and he got dealt with...everyone should have learned from that experience about Haye, EVERYONE.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Fury knew how Haye works deals before this either that or he is naïve as hell. Fury and Fury's team should have expected this kind of outcome.

Yes Haye is an asshole and Fury is a moron....FACT

[ross]

So basically it boils down to this: David Haye is an asshole and Tyson Fury is a fucking moron

You write shit like that and want people to take you serious?

Your offered £5 million and a win over Wlads most dangerous opponent and you would turn it down?

Wlad must be a moron too as he signed to fight him after all the other let downs.

YES because I've called Haye out from the get go and all he's done is prove my assessment of him to be 100% correct.

#1. NOT WITHOUT MAKING A PLAN IN CASE HAYE BACKED OUT

#2. Haye hadn't officially outed himself as a coward until his move to heavyweight. Wlad was the first fighter Haye ran his little game on and the Klitschko's haven't been suckered into dealing with him again. Haye wanted to play hardball and he got dealt with...everyone should have learned from that experience about Haye, EVERYONE.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Fury knew how Haye works deals before this either that or he is naïve as hell. Fury and Fury's team should have expected this kind of outcome.

Yes Haye is an asshole and Fury is a moron....FACT

Well why didnt he move heaven and earth to get a Thompson rematch?

Why didnt he even try to get Cunninghams IBF belt (even though he still has the cheeck to call himself undisputed at cruiser)?

[Fenster]

So basically it boils down to this: David Haye is an asshole and Tyson Fury is a fucking moron

You write shit like that and want people to take you serious?

Your offered £5 million and a win over Wlads most dangerous opponent and you would turn it down?

Wlad must be a moron too as he signed to fight him after all the other let downs.

YES because I've called Haye out from the get go and all he's done is prove my assessment of him to be 100% correct.

#1. NOT WITHOUT MAKING A PLAN IN CASE HAYE BACKED OUT

#2. Haye hadn't officially outed himself as a coward until his move to heavyweight. Wlad was the first fighter Haye ran his little game on and the Klitschko's haven't been suckered into dealing with him again. Haye wanted to play hardball and he got dealt with...everyone should have learned from that experience about Haye, EVERYONE.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Fury knew how Haye works deals before this either that or he is naïve as hell. Fury and Fury's team should have expected this kind of outcome.

Yes Haye is an asshole and Fury is a moron....FACT

Well why didnt he move heaven and earth to get a Thompson rematch?

Why didnt he even try to get Cunninghams IBF belt (even though he still has the cheeck to call himself undisputed at cruiser)?

Because Cunningham LOST in his first attempt at the vacant IBF title stripped off O'Neil Bell for having a rematch with Mormeck, who he had unified the WBC and WBA titles with. Bell didn't lose the title it was taken off him through politics.

Mormeck then beat Bell. Haye beat Mormeck. Hence, Haye is THE man at cruiserweight. He then chinned out Enzo Macc for the WBO title, for what it's worth.

Cunningham won an IBF title that rightfully belonged to Haye all along. Simple as.

[ross]

So basically it boils down to this: David Haye is an asshole and Tyson Fury is a fucking moron

You write shit like that and want people to take you serious?

Your offered £5 million and a win over Wlads most dangerous opponent and you would turn it down?

Wlad must be a moron too as he signed to fight him after all the other let downs.

YES because I've called Haye out from the get go and all he's done is prove my assessment of him to be 100% correct.

#1. NOT WITHOUT MAKING A PLAN IN CASE HAYE BACKED OUT

#2. Haye hadn't officially outed himself as a coward until his move to heavyweight. Wlad was the first fighter Haye ran his little game on and the Klitschko's haven't been suckered into dealing with him again. Haye wanted to play hardball and he got dealt with...everyone should have learned from that experience about Haye, EVERYONE.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Fury knew how Haye works deals before this either that or he is naïve as hell. Fury and Fury's team should have expected this kind of outcome.

Yes Haye is an asshole and Fury is a moron....FACT

Well why didnt he move heaven and earth to get a Thompson rematch?

Why didnt he even try to get Cunninghams IBF belt (even though he still has the cheeck to call himself undisputed at cruiser)?

Because Cunningham LOST in his first attempt at the vacant IBF title stripped off O'Neil Bell for having a rematch with Mormeck, who he had unified the WBC and WBA titles with. Bell didn't lose the title it was taken off him through politics.

Mormeck then beat Bell. Haye beat Mormeck. Hence, Haye is THE man at cruiserweight. He then chinned out Enzo Macc for the WBO title, for what it's worth.

Cunningham won an IBF title that rightfully belonged to Haye all along. Simple as.

Haye can never ever be regarded as the undisputed cruiser champ. He avoided a fight with his most difficult opponent at cruiser who held the other belt. Same as until Wlad wins the WBC he cant be regarded as the undisputed.

[bzkfn]

Haye can never ever be regarded as the undisputed cruiser champ. He avoided a fight with his most difficult opponent at cruiser who held the other belt. Same as until Wlad wins the WBC he cant be regarded as the undisputed.

But Fury, being the monster of a fighter that he is, showed true bravery knocking out the guy Haye was so afraid of at Cruiser...

You couldn't be more predictable. Cunningham never called for a Haye fight, and Haye planned to beat Mormeck and move up. The only reason he took Maccarinelli was for the money. To say he avoided Cunningham to go chase a Klitschko fight is just idiocy, but I'm sure you're already aware of that as you'd rather twist history to suit your own opinion.

[Fenster]

Why didnt he even try to get Cunninghams IBF belt (even though he still has the cheeck to call himself undisputed at cruiser)?

Because Cunningham LOST in his first attempt at the vacant IBF title stripped off O'Neil Bell for having a rematch with Mormeck, who he had unified the WBC and WBA titles with. Bell didn't lose the title it was taken off him through politics.

Mormeck then beat Bell. Haye beat Mormeck. Hence, Haye is THE man at cruiserweight. He then chinned out Enzo Macc for the WBO title, for what it's worth.

Cunningham won an IBF title that rightfully belonged to Haye all along. Simple as.

Haye can never ever be regarded as the undisputed cruiser champ. He avoided a fight with his most difficult opponent at cruiser who held the other belt. Same as until Wlad wins the WBC he cant be regarded as the undisputed.

Wlad is already considered "undisputed" in many quarters. The problem with him and Vitali wasn't the WBC belt, it was the fact that Vitali was the clear "2nd" best heavyweight but they couldn't fight.

After Lennox Lewis became "undisputed" champion the WBA stripped him. Was he still universally recognised as the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world? Yes, even though he didn't have that belt he never lost it in the ring.

Joe Calzaghe dumped the IBF belt after taking it from Lacy. After beating Kessler he became the "undisputed" supermiddle champion... without the IBF belt.

[Vendettos]

So basically it boils down to this: David Haye is an asshole and Tyson Fury is a fucking moron

You write shit like that and want people to take you serious?

Your offered £5 million and a win over Wlads most dangerous opponent and you would turn it down?

Wlad must be a moron too as he signed to fight him after all the other let downs.

YES because I've called Haye out from the get go and all he's done is prove my assessment of him to be 100% correct.

#1. NOT WITHOUT MAKING A PLAN IN CASE HAYE BACKED OUT

#2. Haye hadn't officially outed himself as a coward until his move to heavyweight. Wlad was the first fighter Haye ran his little game on and the Klitschko's haven't been suckered into dealing with him again. Haye wanted to play hardball and he got dealt with...everyone should have learned from that experience about Haye, EVERYONE.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Fury knew how Haye works deals before this either that or he is naïve as hell. Fury and Fury's team should have expected this kind of outcome.

Yes Haye is an asshole and Fury is a moron....FACT

Well why didnt he move heaven and earth to get a Thompson rematch?

Why didnt he even try to get Cunninghams IBF belt (even though he still has the cheeck to call himself undisputed at cruiser)?

Because Cunningham LOST in his first attempt at the vacant IBF title stripped off O'Neil Bell for having a rematch with Mormeck, who he had unified the WBC and WBA titles with. Bell didn't lose the title it was taken off him through politics.

Mormeck then beat Bell. Haye beat Mormeck. Hence, Haye is THE man at cruiserweight. He then chinned out Enzo Macc for the WBO title, for what it's worth.

Cunningham won an IBF title that rightfully belonged to Haye all along. Simple as.

Haye can never ever be regarded as the undisputed cruiser champ. He avoided a fight with his most difficult opponent at cruiser who held the other belt. Same as until Wlad wins the WBC he cant be regarded as the undisputed.

Unfortunately mate, you may not see him as great undisputed cruiserweight, but almost everyone else does, and if 1000 people say one thing and you say different, well it's more than likely that the 1000 are right.

You need to be flexible Ross, you're opinions are far too strong and it makes you seem biased, and biased people have no credibility in discussions.

For instance, I don't like Fury but I'm not daft I can see his strengths and weaknesses and I would defend him if I thought it was fair.

However Fury and Haye could fight and Fury beat Haye with a crowbar, you'd still find a way to make it Hayes fault.

[ross]

So basically it boils down to this: David Haye is an asshole and Tyson Fury is a fucking moron

You write shit like that and want people to take you serious?

Your offered £5 million and a win over Wlads most dangerous opponent and you would turn it down?

Wlad must be a moron too as he signed to fight him after all the other let downs.

YES because I've called Haye out from the get go and all he's done is prove my assessment of him to be 100% correct.

#1. NOT WITHOUT MAKING A PLAN IN CASE HAYE BACKED OUT

#2. Haye hadn't officially outed himself as a coward until his move to heavyweight. Wlad was the first fighter Haye ran his little game on and the Klitschko's haven't been suckered into dealing with him again. Haye wanted to play hardball and he got dealt with...everyone should have learned from that experience about Haye, EVERYONE.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Fury knew how Haye works deals before this either that or he is naïve as hell. Fury and Fury's team should have expected this kind of outcome.

Yes Haye is an asshole and Fury is a moron....FACT

Well why didnt he move heaven and earth to get a Thompson rematch?

Why didnt he even try to get Cunninghams IBF belt (even though he still has the cheeck to call himself undisputed at cruiser)?

Because Cunningham LOST in his first attempt at the vacant IBF title stripped off O'Neil Bell for having a rematch with Mormeck, who he had unified the WBC and WBA titles with. Bell didn't lose the title it was taken off him through politics.

Mormeck then beat Bell. Haye beat Mormeck. Hence, Haye is THE man at cruiserweight. He then chinned out Enzo Macc for the WBO title, for what it's worth.

Cunningham won an IBF title that rightfully belonged to Haye all along. Simple as.

Haye can never ever be regarded as the undisputed cruiser champ. He avoided a fight with his most difficult opponent at cruiser who held the other belt. Same as until Wlad wins the WBC he cant be regarded as the undisputed.

Unfortunately mate, you may not see him as great undisputed cruiserweight, but almost everyone else does, and if 1000 people say one thing and you say different, well it's more than likely that the 1000 are right.

You need to be flexible Ross, you're opinions are far too strong and it makes you seem biased, and biased people have no credibility in discussions.

For instance, I don't like Fury but I'm not daft I can see his strengths and weaknesses and I would defend him if I thought it was fair.

However Fury and Haye could fight and Fury beat Haye with a crowbar, you'd still find a way to make it Hayes fault.

No, its black and white.

If you hold all the major belts you are undisputed. If there is an existing other belt holder how can you be undispited as there is the chance that other belt holder can beat you. If you hold all the belts there is no dispute who the champion is as there is only one. Haye has never been undisputed, same as Wlad has also never been undisputed. At the moment, he is the only heavyweight champion and will have to beat Stiverne or Arreola for to finally be crowned undisputed. He does deserve that distinction.

[erics44]

So basically it boils down to this: David Haye is an asshole and Tyson Fury is a fucking moron

You write shit like that and want people to take you serious?

Your offered £5 million and a win over Wlads most dangerous opponent and you would turn it down?

Wlad must be a moron too as he signed to fight him after all the other let downs.

YES because I've called Haye out from the get go and all he's done is prove my assessment of him to be 100% correct.

#1. NOT WITHOUT MAKING A PLAN IN CASE HAYE BACKED OUT

#2. Haye hadn't officially outed himself as a coward until his move to heavyweight. Wlad was the first fighter Haye ran his little game on and the Klitschko's haven't been suckered into dealing with him again. Haye wanted to play hardball and he got dealt with...everyone should have learned from that experience about Haye, EVERYONE.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Fury knew how Haye works deals before this either that or he is naïve as hell. Fury and Fury's team should have expected this kind of outcome.

Yes Haye is an asshole and Fury is a moron....FACT

Well why didnt he move heaven and earth to get a Thompson rematch?

Why didnt he even try to get Cunninghams IBF belt (even though he still has the cheeck to call himself undisputed at cruiser)?

Because Cunningham LOST in his first attempt at the vacant IBF title stripped off O'Neil Bell for having a rematch with Mormeck, who he had unified the WBC and WBA titles with. Bell didn't lose the title it was taken off him through politics.

Mormeck then beat Bell. Haye beat Mormeck. Hence, Haye is THE man at cruiserweight. He then chinned out Enzo Macc for the WBO title, for what it's worth.

Cunningham won an IBF title that rightfully belonged to Haye all along. Simple as.

Haye can never ever be regarded as the undisputed cruiser champ. He avoided a fight with his most difficult opponent at cruiser who held the other belt. Same as until Wlad wins the WBC he cant be regarded as the undisputed.

Unfortunately mate, you may not see him as great undisputed cruiserweight, but almost everyone else does, and if 1000 people say one thing and you say different, well it's more than likely that the 1000 are right.

You need to be flexible Ross, you're opinions are far too strong and it makes you seem biased, and biased people have no credibility in discussions.

For instance, I don't like Fury but I'm not daft I can see his strengths and weaknesses and I would defend him if I thought it was fair.

However Fury and Haye could fight and Fury beat Haye with a crowbar, you'd still find a way to make it Hayes fault.

No, its black and white.

If you hold all the major belts you are undisputed. If there is an existing other belt holder how can you be undispited as there is the chance that other belt holder can beat you. If you hold all the belts there is no dispute who the champion is as there is only one. Haye has never been undisputed, same as Wlad has also never been undisputed. At the moment, he is the only heavyweight champion and will have to beat Stiverne or Arreola for to finally be crowned undisputed. He does deserve that distinction.

@ross does actually have a point here

you have to actually hold the 4 belts to be undisputed champion as far as i know and haye didnt

even tho everybody in boxing considered him the undisputed champion and dont see there to be any argument against that, the only people to question that would probably people who have something against Haye on a personal level, Haye never acually was 100% factually undisputed champion

[La Cucaracha]

So basically it boils down to this: David Haye is an asshole and Tyson Fury is a fucking moron

You write shit like that and want people to take you serious?

Your offered £5 million and a win over Wlads most dangerous opponent and you would turn it down?

Wlad must be a moron too as he signed to fight him after all the other let downs.

YES because I've called Haye out from the get go and all he's done is prove my assessment of him to be 100% correct.

#1. NOT WITHOUT MAKING A PLAN IN CASE HAYE BACKED OUT

#2. Haye hadn't officially outed himself as a coward until his move to heavyweight. Wlad was the first fighter Haye ran his little game on and the Klitschko's haven't been suckered into dealing with him again. Haye wanted to play hardball and he got dealt with...everyone should have learned from that experience about Haye, EVERYONE.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Fury knew how Haye works deals before this either that or he is naïve as hell. Fury and Fury's team should have expected this kind of outcome.

Yes Haye is an asshole and Fury is a moron....FACT

Well why didnt he move heaven and earth to get a Thompson rematch?

Why didnt he even try to get Cunninghams IBF belt (even though he still has the cheeck to call himself undisputed at cruiser)?

Because Cunningham LOST in his first attempt at the vacant IBF title stripped off O'Neil Bell for having a rematch with Mormeck, who he had unified the WBC and WBA titles with. Bell didn't lose the title it was taken off him through politics.

Mormeck then beat Bell. Haye beat Mormeck. Hence, Haye is THE man at cruiserweight. He then chinned out Enzo Macc for the WBO title, for what it's worth.

Cunningham won an IBF title that rightfully belonged to Haye all along. Simple as.

Haye can never ever be regarded as the undisputed cruiser champ. He avoided a fight with his most difficult opponent at cruiser who held the other belt. Same as until Wlad wins the WBC he cant be regarded as the undisputed.

That is incorrect