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    Default Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!

    I have to disagree, I believe Pascal cake walked to the win.

    Bute didn't have any venom behind any punches and pascal came on strong at the end of the rounds which was all he needed to beat a very tame Bute.
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    Default Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    I have to disagree, I believe Pascal cake walked to the win.

    Bute didn't have any venom behind any punches and pascal came on strong at the end of the rounds which was all he needed to beat a very tame Bute.
    It was as clear cut as any win. If a fight is boring he thinks it should be a draw. Absolutely clueless.

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    Default Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!

    Pascal didn't impress; Bute didn't try...The picked the the lesser of the two evils. If you can step into a ring and not try where your life is on the line and someone's trying to knock your head off. You deserve to lose.

    There were some rounds where butes punch stats were in the low single digits. The fact that Pascal was doing stupid crap like double punching and looking away made it that much worse. Lets face it, if bute had ko'd him with an uppercut from hell in that giftwrapped barrage opportunity from pascal, ... We'd be calling bute lucky and pascal a fool (still)
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    Default Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    I have to disagree, I believe Pascal cake walked to the win.

    Bute didn't have any venom behind any punches and pascal came on strong at the end of the rounds which was all he needed to beat a very tame Bute.
    It was as clear cut as any win. If a fight is boring he thinks it should be a draw. Absolutely clueless.
    I never said that. I said Pascal didn't do effective enough scoring to win convincingly. Floyd and Ward's fights are boring- but they are convincingly boring.
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    Default Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    I have to disagree, I believe Pascal cake walked to the win.

    Bute didn't have any venom behind any punches and pascal came on strong at the end of the rounds which was all he needed to beat a very tame Bute.
    It was as clear cut as any win. If a fight is boring he thinks it should be a draw. Absolutely clueless.
    I never said that. I said Pascal didn't do effective enough scoring to win convincingly. Floyd and Ward's fights are boring- but they are convincingly boring.
    again showing u cant score a fight. All you have to do is enough to beat the other guy. Let me give u a breakdown of the fight:

    Round 1 - Bute landed 4 of 15 punches, Pascal 6 of 35. In fairness was a close round. I gave it to Bute

    Round 2 - Bute landed 6 of 22 Pascal 16 of 43. Late flurry by Pascal hurt Bute, clearly a Pascal round

    Round 3 - Close round, gave it to Bute

    Round 4 to 7 - clear Pascal rounds, outlanded and out threw Bute in every round with most of Bute shots being pawing jabs

    Round 8 - close round, pascal out landed again 10 from22 versus 8 from 30 for Bute, again Butes mainly jabs, I gave it to Pascal, possibly 10 10 round

    9 - Clear Pascal round out landing Bute 18 to 9

    10 -clear pascal round out landing again 21 to 12

    11 - Landed the same 19/41 each. I gave to Pascal because he looked to hurt Bute again at the end. Can see the other way too tho so will give to Bute

    12 - Bute landed twice as many as Pascal. Butes round because Pascal did nothing

    Score 113 Bute 116 Pascal being extremely generous to Bute still have Pascal winning comfy

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    Default Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!

    One thing for sure, I am pretty disappointed in bute. He has the skills to beat PAscal but apparently he didn't recover mentally from the Froch episode and decided to come an fight... one round. He wants a revenge but I think that first, he should seek help to put him back on the path to self confidence.
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    Default Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!

    Bute seemed to take a good punch in his last fight against Denis Grachev. It just didn't carry over to the Pascal fight.

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    Default Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!

    Quote Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer View Post
    Bute seemed to take a good punch in his last fight against Denis Grachev. It just didn't carry over to the Pascal fight.
    Because joe blow Grachev isn't a puncher, dude.. Dont let the Sillakh KO give you the wrong idea.

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    Default Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
    I have to disagree, I believe Pascal cake walked to the win.

    Bute didn't have any venom behind any punches and pascal came on strong at the end of the rounds which was all he needed to beat a very tame Bute.
    It was as clear cut as any win. If a fight is boring he thinks it should be a draw. Absolutely clueless.
    I never said that. I said Pascal didn't do effective enough scoring to win convincingly. Floyd and Ward's fights are boring- but they are convincingly boring.
    again showing u cant score a fight. All you have to do is enough to beat the other guy. Let me give u a breakdown of the fight:

    Round 1 - Bute landed 4 of 15 punches, Pascal 6 of 35. In fairness was a close round. I gave it to Bute

    Round 2 - Bute landed 6 of 22 Pascal 16 of 43. Late flurry by Pascal hurt Bute, clearly a Pascal round

    Round 3 - Close round, gave it to Bute

    Round 4 to 7 - clear Pascal rounds, outlanded and out threw Bute in every round with most of Bute shots being pawing jabs

    Round 8 - close round, pascal out landed again 10 from22 versus 8 from 30 for Bute, again Butes mainly jabs, I gave it to Pascal, possibly 10 10 round

    9 - Clear Pascal round out landing Bute 18 to 9

    10 -clear pascal round out landing again 21 to 12

    11 - Landed the same 19/41 each. I gave to Pascal because he looked to hurt Bute again at the end. Can see the other way too tho so will give to Bute

    12 - Bute landed twice as many as Pascal. Butes round because Pascal did nothing

    Score 113 Bute 116 Pascal being extremely generous to Bute still have Pascal winning comfy
    Effective punching does NOT mean punches landed. You know nothing about boxing. Anything the compu-box tells you you accept, hook, line and sinker.

    If punch-stats meant a damn thing then Calzaghe's slapping all the time and wrist punches would make him the most effective puncher, ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
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    I have to disagree, I believe Pascal cake walked to the win.

    Bute didn't have any venom behind any punches and pascal came on strong at the end of the rounds which was all he needed to beat a very tame Bute.
    It was as clear cut as any win. If a fight is boring he thinks it should be a draw. Absolutely clueless.
    I never said that. I said Pascal didn't do effective enough scoring to win convincingly. Floyd and Ward's fights are boring- but they are convincingly boring.
    again showing u cant score a fight. All you have to do is enough to beat the other guy. Let me give u a breakdown of the fight:

    Round 1 - Bute landed 4 of 15 punches, Pascal 6 of 35. In fairness was a close round. I gave it to Bute

    Round 2 - Bute landed 6 of 22 Pascal 16 of 43. Late flurry by Pascal hurt Bute, clearly a Pascal round

    Round 3 - Close round, gave it to Bute

    Round 4 to 7 - clear Pascal rounds, outlanded and out threw Bute in every round with most of Bute shots being pawing jabs

    Round 8 - close round, pascal out landed again 10 from22 versus 8 from 30 for Bute, again Butes mainly jabs, I gave it to Pascal, possibly 10 10 round

    9 - Clear Pascal round out landing Bute 18 to 9

    10 -clear pascal round out landing again 21 to 12

    11 - Landed the same 19/41 each. I gave to Pascal because he looked to hurt Bute again at the end. Can see the other way too tho so will give to Bute

    12 - Bute landed twice as many as Pascal. Butes round because Pascal did nothing

    Score 113 Bute 116 Pascal being extremely generous to Bute still have Pascal winning comfy
    Effective punching does NOT mean punches landed. You know nothing about boxing. Anything the compu-box tells you you accept, hook, line and sinker.

    If punch-stats meant a damn thing then Calzaghe's slapping all the time and wrist punches would make him the most effective puncher, ever.
    Ok so if I throw 10 punches and land 2 but neither hurt you and you throw 50 punches and land 15 but neither hurt me who has won the round? So you gave Bute 6 rounds? Please tell which ones and explain?

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    Default Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!

    Isn't there an immediate rematch clause?

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    Default Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
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    I have to disagree, I believe Pascal cake walked to the win.

    Bute didn't have any venom behind any punches and pascal came on strong at the end of the rounds which was all he needed to beat a very tame Bute.
    It was as clear cut as any win. If a fight is boring he thinks it should be a draw. Absolutely clueless.
    I never said that. I said Pascal didn't do effective enough scoring to win convincingly. Floyd and Ward's fights are boring- but they are convincingly boring.
    again showing u cant score a fight. All you have to do is enough to beat the other guy. Let me give u a breakdown of the fight:

    Round 1 - Bute landed 4 of 15 punches, Pascal 6 of 35. In fairness was a close round. I gave it to Bute

    Round 2 - Bute landed 6 of 22 Pascal 16 of 43. Late flurry by Pascal hurt Bute, clearly a Pascal round

    Round 3 - Close round, gave it to Bute

    Round 4 to 7 - clear Pascal rounds, outlanded and out threw Bute in every round with most of Bute shots being pawing jabs

    Round 8 - close round, pascal out landed again 10 from22 versus 8 from 30 for Bute, again Butes mainly jabs, I gave it to Pascal, possibly 10 10 round

    9 - Clear Pascal round out landing Bute 18 to 9

    10 -clear pascal round out landing again 21 to 12

    11 - Landed the same 19/41 each. I gave to Pascal because he looked to hurt Bute again at the end. Can see the other way too tho so will give to Bute

    12 - Bute landed twice as many as Pascal. Butes round because Pascal did nothing

    Score 113 Bute 116 Pascal being extremely generous to Bute still have Pascal winning comfy
    Effective punching does NOT mean punches landed. You know nothing about boxing. Anything the compu-box tells you you accept, hook, line and sinker.

    If punch-stats meant a damn thing then Calzaghe's slapping all the time and wrist punches would make him the most effective puncher, ever.
    Ok so if I throw 10 punches and land 2 but neither hurt you and you throw 50 punches and land 15 but neither hurt me who has won the round? So you gave Bute 6 rounds? Please tell which ones and explain?
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    Isn't there an immediate rematch clause?
    It's not what rounds I gave Bute, is what rounds I didn't want to give to Pascal. Which were quite a few rounds. This fight should have been a draw! A Majority Draw. They should do this again, because it means nothing.

    And I would agree with a rematch. It may not be as boring as many would imagine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
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    I have to disagree, I believe Pascal cake walked to the win.

    Bute didn't have any venom behind any punches and pascal came on strong at the end of the rounds which was all he needed to beat a very tame Bute.
    It was as clear cut as any win. If a fight is boring he thinks it should be a draw. Absolutely clueless.
    I never said that. I said Pascal didn't do effective enough scoring to win convincingly. Floyd and Ward's fights are boring- but they are convincingly boring.
    again showing u cant score a fight. All you have to do is enough to beat the other guy. Let me give u a breakdown of the fight:

    Round 1 - Bute landed 4 of 15 punches, Pascal 6 of 35. In fairness was a close round. I gave it to Bute

    Round 2 - Bute landed 6 of 22 Pascal 16 of 43. Late flurry by Pascal hurt Bute, clearly a Pascal round

    Round 3 - Close round, gave it to Bute

    Round 4 to 7 - clear Pascal rounds, outlanded and out threw Bute in every round with most of Bute shots being pawing jabs

    Round 8 - close round, pascal out landed again 10 from22 versus 8 from 30 for Bute, again Butes mainly jabs, I gave it to Pascal, possibly 10 10 round

    9 - Clear Pascal round out landing Bute 18 to 9

    10 -clear pascal round out landing again 21 to 12

    11 - Landed the same 19/41 each. I gave to Pascal because he looked to hurt Bute again at the end. Can see the other way too tho so will give to Bute

    12 - Bute landed twice as many as Pascal. Butes round because Pascal did nothing

    Score 113 Bute 116 Pascal being extremely generous to Bute still have Pascal winning comfy
    Effective punching does NOT mean punches landed. You know nothing about boxing. Anything the compu-box tells you you accept, hook, line and sinker.

    If punch-stats meant a damn thing then Calzaghe's slapping all the time and wrist punches would make him the most effective puncher, ever.
    Ok so if I throw 10 punches and land 2 but neither hurt you and you throw 50 punches and land 15 but neither hurt me who has won the round? So you gave Bute 6 rounds? Please tell which ones and explain?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Isn't there an immediate rematch clause?
    It's not what rounds I gave Bute, is what rounds I didn't want to give to Pascal. Which were quite a few rounds. This fight should have been a draw! A Majority Draw. They should do this again, because it means nothing.

    And I would agree with a rematch. It may not be as boring as many would imagine.
    So how may draw rounds did u have? 6? 8? cant see it possible that Bute won more then 2 or 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Isn't there an immediate rematch clause?
    I hope not. Bute is finished..

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    Default Re: The Bute/Pascal fight decision is unsatisfactory!

    Clear for Pascal.

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