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    Default Re: Bellew's inferiority complex with Cleverley

    See this is what makes England and its domestic scene so interesting. You hate each other because someone lives in the next county over or is from Liverpool or London. Its like you are fighting someone from another country. The internal rivalries are much larger then international ones. Its the same thing in Britain as whole like in this case and yet everyone seems to like Calzaghe. I think its great and the best boxing environment on the planet.

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    i doubt he even really hates him

    he probly made more out of the clev fight than any other by miles, even if he was world champ at lhw he would probly have to fight a few times before he makes that sort of money again

    he knows if the rivally between him and clev stays theres a chance of another big pay day

    clev moves up, theres nothing really at light heavy for him that isnt 5x as much work for the same financial gain as the rematch

    lets hope one or both of them get somewhere near a world title so we can see a rematch and they can both get the payday they deserve
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    I highly doubt Bellew made more money with Cleverly, in front of one man and a dog on BoxNation, than against Stevenson with the might of HBO backing it.

    Cleverly couldn't even fill 3000 seaters in Wales as "world" champ. That's why the Bellew fight happend in Liverpool.

    Either way, after they both got exposed against the "elite" a rematch is just about the best option for both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I highly doubt Bellew made more money with Cleverly, in front of one man and a dog on BoxNation, than against Stevenson with the might of HBO backing it.

    Cleverly couldn't even fill 3000 seaters in Wales as "world" champ. That's why the Bellew fight happend in Liverpool.

    Either way, after they both got exposed against the "elite" a rematch is just about the best option for both.

    yeah he could well have made more out of stevenson

    as exposed usually means - turned out to be rubbish - saying they were exposed is harsh, stevenson and kolorev look like very good fighters

    stevenson KOed whats-his-face in round 1 a couple of fights before, and battered cloud, I dont think you would say the two of them were exposed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I highly doubt Bellew made more money with Cleverly, in front of one man and a dog on BoxNation, than against Stevenson with the might of HBO backing it.

    Cleverly couldn't even fill 3000 seaters in Wales as "world" champ. That's why the Bellew fight happend in Liverpool.

    Either way, after they both got exposed against the "elite" a rematch is just about the best option for both.

    yeah he could well have made more out of stevenson

    as exposed usually means - turned out to be rubbish - saying they were exposed is harsh, stevenson and kolorev look like very good fighters

    stevenson KOed whats-his-face in round 1 a couple of fights before, and battered cloud, I dont think you would say the two of them were exposed?
    "Exposed against the elite"

    They're both top level fighters but not "elite" level. If they were they wouldn't have both been totally pulverised inside 6 rounds and then dived straight out of the division.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    "Exposed against the elite"

    They're both top level fighters but not "elite" level. If they were they wouldn't have both been totally pulverised inside 6 rounds and then dived straight out of the division.
    I agree with you. The thing is I feel Cleverley would have given Hopkins a decent fight just because he throws a large number of punches and would win rounds on workrate. I also feel he'd have given Shumanov & Braehmer problems but I think Bellew would have lost to the lot of them just because his every fight gameplan of trying to take his opponents head of with every punch would have been easy to figure out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    "Exposed against the elite"

    They're both top level fighters but not "elite" level. If they were they wouldn't have both been totally pulverised inside 6 rounds and then dived straight out of the division.
    I agree with you. The thing is I feel Cleverley would have given Hopkins a decent fight just because he throws a large number of punches and would win rounds on workrate. I also feel he'd have given Shumanov & Braehmer problems but I think Bellew would have lost to the lot of them just because his every fight gameplan of trying to take his opponents head of with every punch would have been easy to figure out.
    yeah but do you agree that clev was exposed or he didnt quite make it to the very top?

    is your glass half empty or half full?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    I highly doubt Bellew made more money with Cleverly, in front of one man and a dog on BoxNation, than against Stevenson with the might of HBO backing it.

    Cleverly couldn't even fill 3000 seaters in Wales as "world" champ. That's why the Bellew fight happend in Liverpool.

    Either way, after they both got exposed against the "elite" a rematch is just about the best option for both.

    yeah he could well have made more out of stevenson

    as exposed usually means - turned out to be rubbish - saying they were exposed is harsh, stevenson and kolorev look like very good fighters

    stevenson KOed whats-his-face in round 1 a couple of fights before, and battered cloud, I dont think you would say the two of them were exposed?
    "Exposed against the elite"

    They're both top level fighters but not "elite" level. If they were they wouldn't have both been totally pulverised inside 6 rounds and then dived straight out of the division.
    yeah but Exposed against the Elite is like a contradiction in its self, either that or its a very negative way of viewing a fighter who climbs the ladder and fails on the final step

    thats not exactly exposed

    if i said i was a fantastic ladder climber and only got half way people could say i had been exposed for what i really was

    if i said i was a fantastic ladder climber and got one step from the top, people would say ooof unlucky fella you almost made it
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    The reason Bellew hates Cleverly is because Bellew is a clown! He was originally due to fight Cleverly as a late replacement. At the press conference , he tipped the table over got all mouthy about what he was going to do and then didn't even make the weight!!! Embarrassing yes, but not Cleverly's fault. He says Cleverly looks down on him like he wasn't on his level, that's because he wasn't on his level! He was no more dismissive or disrespectful than Bellew was to Chilemba before their 1st fight.

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