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    Default Re: Mauricio Herrera is Danny Garcia's next fight?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Its down to it being a monopoly, 1 promoter decides everything and that promoter is a fan of the sport.
    That's true too, and it's a big reason why I'd support a group like Goldenboy taking over boxing and having all the best fighters under one roof.

    To me there's also a different mentality with boxing promoters, they remind me almost of traveling carnies, just trying to squeeze every dime out of every stop as possible with no real thought or need to build up anything, just on to the next stop to squeeze out more $$$.

    And it's partly our fault too, because we've been conditioned to swallow shit and ask for seconds by decades of lame matchmaking.

    That's all this is. Danny's hot right now, hot enough where they can squeeze a few dimes out of an inferior matchup, so that's what their going to do.

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    Default Re: Mauricio Herrera is Danny Garcia's next fight?!?

    At least there are some decent fights on the card
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    Default Re: Mauricio Herrera is Danny Garcia's next fight?!?

    It's not that bad of a fight. Herrera is the one who took Provodnikov 0. And without much difficulty. His fight with Alvarado was one of the best of 2012. Herrera can fight. I don't expect him to win. But he ain't just gonna lay down for Garcia either. He'll be competitive.

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    Default Re: Mauricio Herrera is Danny Garcia's next fight?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Its down to it being a monopoly, 1 promoter decides everything and that promoter is a fan of the sport.
    That's true too, and it's a big reason why I'd support a group like Goldenboy taking over boxing and having all the best fighters under one roof.

    To me there's also a different mentality with boxing promoters, they remind me almost of traveling carnies, just trying to squeeze every dime out of every stop as possible with no real thought or need to build up anything, just on to the next stop to squeeze out more $$$.

    And it's partly our fault too, because we've been conditioned to swallow shit and ask for seconds by decades of lame matchmaking.

    That's all this is. Danny's hot right now, hot enough where they can squeeze a few dimes out of an inferior matchup, so that's what their going to do.
    I think the worst scenario would be all or nothing under a single rule but agree on the urgency and want. Promoters have that now with decent stables of talent but instead of making statements and rising above in house we still get a boiled down version and Gary Russell jr blowing out a flyweight tomorrow night..etc etc. The fact is, this sport needs some cannon fodder. Its business and you need competition and rivals as there are just way too many boxers to try to have some dictatorship. The 'best vs best' is always in flux and in rotation with upsets and "WHOTF is that guy". Journeymen and lesser knowns have FOTY canidates too. Had Danny not just beat a Matthysse this would be a bigger terd but as long as no pattern of padding exist, its tolerable. Not desired, but tolerable. There are complete shameful mismatches..and then there are tune ups. I mean even a Kovalev didn't beat a best of best to merit the demand vs Stevenson. It is more HOW he steamrolls people. He is must see tv who was given a shot from obscurity.

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    Default Re: Mauricio Herrera is Danny Garcia's next fight?!?

    There's a lot to be said for the UFC method of matching the best against the best but it's easy to do that when you've got everybody under contract. Boxing is always going to be like this as promoters have to make money and I think Golden Boy here are seeing if they can build Garcia's fanbase a little by putting him on in PR and reminding Puerto Ricans that he's Puerto Rican. Cotto manages to sell out MSG and be a big PPV draw due to his Puerto Rican fanbase and Garcia doesn't draw flies by comparison so they're probably just trying to market him with this fight, plus GBP are now making a promotional agreement with Puerto Rican Best Boxing who have fallen out with Arum, so it's a long term move for them as well.

    I actually don't mind this card at all. The main event will be an action fight and you've got two much better undercard fights than you generally see on a Top Rank bill.

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    Default Re: Mauricio Herrera is Danny Garcia's next fight?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    There's a lot to be said for the UFC method of matching the best against the best but it's easy to do that when you've got everybody under contract. Boxing is always going to be like this as promoters have to make money and I think Golden Boy here are seeing if they can build Garcia's fanbase a little by putting him on in PR and reminding Puerto Ricans that he's Puerto Rican. Cotto manages to sell out MSG and be a big PPV draw due to his Puerto Rican fanbase and Garcia doesn't draw flies by comparison so they're probably just trying to market him with this fight, plus GBP are now making a promotional agreement with Puerto Rican Best Boxing who have fallen out with Arum, so it's a long term move for them as well.

    I actually don't mind this card at all. The main event will be an action fight and you've got two much better undercard fights than you generally see on a Top Rank bill.
    Fighting in Puerto Rico makes 100% sense to build your fan base, and I agree with that part of the move, but he's taking an easy, showcase opponent. Why take a showcase fight when you beat the boogeyman in the division in your last fight? Onward and upward?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    There's a lot to be said for the UFC method of matching the best against the best but it's easy to do that when you've got everybody under contract. Boxing is always going to be like this as promoters have to make money and I think Golden Boy here are seeing if they can build Garcia's fanbase a little by putting him on in PR and reminding Puerto Ricans that he's Puerto Rican. Cotto manages to sell out MSG and be a big PPV draw due to his Puerto Rican fanbase and Garcia doesn't draw flies by comparison so they're probably just trying to market him with this fight, plus GBP are now making a promotional agreement with Puerto Rican Best Boxing who have fallen out with Arum, so it's a long term move for them as well.

    I actually don't mind this card at all. The main event will be an action fight and you've got two much better undercard fights than you generally see on a Top Rank bill.
    Fighting in Puerto Rico makes 100% sense to build your fan base, and I agree with that part of the move, but he's taking an easy, showcase opponent. Why take a showcase fight when you beat the boogeyman in the division in your last fight? Onward and upward?
    Who else is there at 140? Herrera comes to fight, right? It'll be an all-action fight for as long as it lasts and they obviously expect Garcia to make a big statement. I think it's fair to give Garcia a relatively easy fight after his last outing too.

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    Default Re: Mauricio Herrera is Danny Garcia's next fight?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    There's a lot to be said for the UFC method of matching the best against the best but it's easy to do that when you've got everybody under contract. Boxing is always going to be like this as promoters have to make money and I think Golden Boy here are seeing if they can build Garcia's fanbase a little by putting him on in PR and reminding Puerto Ricans that he's Puerto Rican. Cotto manages to sell out MSG and be a big PPV draw due to his Puerto Rican fanbase and Garcia doesn't draw flies by comparison so they're probably just trying to market him with this fight, plus GBP are now making a promotional agreement with Puerto Rican Best Boxing who have fallen out with Arum, so it's a long term move for them as well.

    I actually don't mind this card at all. The main event will be an action fight and you've got two much better undercard fights than you generally see on a Top Rank bill.
    Fighting in Puerto Rico makes 100% sense to build your fan base, and I agree with that part of the move, but he's taking an easy, showcase opponent. Why take a showcase fight when you beat the boogeyman in the division in your last fight? Onward and upward?
    Who else is there at 140? Herrera comes to fight, right? It'll be an all-action fight for as long as it lasts and they obviously expect Garcia to make a big statement. I think it's fair to give Garcia a relatively easy fight after his last outing too.
    There are better fights at 140 that than Herrera. Lamont Peterson comes to mind with his recent win over Jean, and it's a unification fight for whatever that's worth, even Jean himself is higher ranked. Herrera isn't even ranked in the top ten at the weight class. Sure he'll make a big statement, but what kind of statement? That he can beat Herrera? No one expects him to lose.

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    Default Re: Mauricio Herrera is Danny Garcia's next fight?!?

    What would he do though, Peterson, the date is in 6 weeks? Had he not fought Jean (comeback off that crushing KO loss) would anyone want to see Peterson vs Garcia. Its not all fighters picking fighters, the networks pull the strings and offer the rides.

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    Default Re: Mauricio Herrera is Danny Garcia's next fight?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    There's a lot to be said for the UFC method of matching the best against the best but it's easy to do that when you've got everybody under contract. Boxing is always going to be like this as promoters have to make money and I think Golden Boy here are seeing if they can build Garcia's fanbase a little by putting him on in PR and reminding Puerto Ricans that he's Puerto Rican. Cotto manages to sell out MSG and be a big PPV draw due to his Puerto Rican fanbase and Garcia doesn't draw flies by comparison so they're probably just trying to market him with this fight, plus GBP are now making a promotional agreement with Puerto Rican Best Boxing who have fallen out with Arum, so it's a long term move for them as well.

    I actually don't mind this card at all. The main event will be an action fight and you've got two much better undercard fights than you generally see on a Top Rank bill.
    Fighting in Puerto Rico makes 100% sense to build your fan base, and I agree with that part of the move, but he's taking an easy, showcase opponent. Why take a showcase fight when you beat the boogeyman in the division in your last fight? Onward and upward?
    Who else is there at 140? Herrera comes to fight, right? It'll be an all-action fight for as long as it lasts and they obviously expect Garcia to make a big statement. I think it's fair to give Garcia a relatively easy fight after his last outing too.
    There are better fights at 140 that than Herrera. Lamont Peterson comes to mind with his recent win over Jean, and it's a unification fight for whatever that's worth, even Jean himself is higher ranked. Herrera isn't even ranked in the top ten at the weight class. Sure he'll make a big statement, but what kind of statement? That he can beat Herrera? No one expects him to lose.
    Cotto had an awful lot of easy fights while Top Rank built him into a massive attraction with Puerto Ricans. Add on the fact Garcia just beat the clear second best guy in the division and that there isn't really anybody that stands out for him to fight next and you have a career-building keep busy fight until something worthwhile is available at 140 or Garcia moves up to 147.

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