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**beenKOed** · 01-30-2014 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by Master

I want to like Ortiz but I just hate him.

I hear you, Sir. There have been several like that for me over the years. Ali, Duran and Fernando Vargas come to mind.

**Hulk** · 01-31-2014 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by beenKOed

Originally Posted by Master

I want to like Ortiz but I just hate him.

I hear you, Sir. There have been several like that for me over the years. Ali, Duran and Fernando Vargas come to mind.

How can you hate Vargas and Duran? They were warriors and all action. Very endearing styles I thought n sure they talked some trash but that was part of their appeal.

**beenKOed** · 01-31-2014 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by Hulk

Originally Posted by beenKOed

Originally Posted by Master

I want to like Ortiz but I just hate him.

I hear you, Sir. There have been several like that for me over the years. Ali, Duran and Fernando Vargas come to mind.

How can you hate Vargas and Duran? They were warriors and all action. Very endearing styles I thought n sure they talked some trash but that was part of their appeal.

I'm flexible, how about Hopkins and Floyd?