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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz-Luis Collazo fight week on FSN

    The last time Collazo faught someone notable was against Berto in 2009 unless you count Freddy Herandez in 2011. I think a rematch with Berto would be probably the best he could get right now. I mean Ortiz was 0-2 in hes last two fights and by KO and stoppage. Hell Showtime didnt see Collazo as a good enough replacement for Alfonso Gomez thats why this fight was on FSN. It was a good start to getting back in the picture but saying that the win against Ortiz grants him fights against Thurman , Broner, Paulie , Maidana , Bradley , Etc is like saying that Anthony Mundine " stoppage win" over Mosley was great and gets him a fight with Martinez , Cotto, Alvarez.
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    Collazo wanted thurman for awhile but got passed over for soto karass.. but now that he's upset ortiz with a highlight ko, thurman can no longe avoid him..

    Luis Collazo is Open To Facing Keith Thurman Next - Boxing News

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Collazo wanted thurman for awhile but got passed over for soto karass.. but now that he's upset ortiz with a highlight ko, thurman can no longe avoid him..

    Luis Collazo is Open To Facing Keith Thurman Next - Boxing News
    I figured that due to rival promoters Collazo couldn't face Thurman. But if he can then hell yes!

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    Default Re: Victor Ortiz-Luis Collazo fight week on FSN

    Quote Originally Posted by Maravilla2012 View Post
    The last time Collazo faught someone notable was against Berto in 2009 unless you count Freddy Herandez in 2011. I think a rematch with Berto would be probably the best he could get right now. I mean Ortiz was 0-2 in hes last two fights and by KO and stoppage. Hell Showtime didnt see Collazo as a good enough replacement for Alfonso Gomez thats why this fight was on FSN. It was a good start to getting back in the picture but saying that the win against Ortiz grants him fights against Thurman , Broner, Paulie , Maidana , Bradley , Etc is like saying that Anthony Mundine " stoppage win" over Mosley was great and gets him a fight with Martinez , Cotto, Alvarez.
    His win over Ortiz is much better than any win Thurman or Broner have ever had, and I don't think his losses in any way detract from his merit as a fighter, except maybe the Mosley fight. That's the only time he's been soundly beaten, and it was certainly no worse than losses everyone else you listed have taken more recently than that. It's in no way like saying anything about Mundine imo.

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    I think ortiz rising up for berto was the peak of his career and he's not mentally strong enough to put himself in that place again.. he had a chip on his shoulder that forced him to get out of character for one night but that was not the real him as much as I hate to say.. it was the disrespect he felt combined with the harsh criticisms that brought the monster out of him but that youthful energy was a one time thing...

    That victory earned him a multi million dollar payday against floyd and he doesnt have the same desire anymore.. you give a mentally weak person few millions and he is not hungry no more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    I think ortiz rising up for berto was the peak of his career and he's not mentally strong enough to put himself in that place again.. he had a chip on his shoulder that forced him to get out of character for one night but that was not the real him as much as I hate to say.. it was the disrespect he felt combined with the harsh criticisms that brought the monster out of him but that youthful energy was a one time thing...

    That victory earned him a multi million dollar payday against floyd and he doesnt have the same desire anymore.. you give a mentally weak person few millions and he is not hungry no more.


    Precisely the way I look back on that Berto fight. It was a very very good fight and a great win for Victor as another poster on here said he can always look back with pride on that victory.


    However, as you said that was NOT him. Its just he had such criticism coming from all angles and his back was against the wall so he got extremely motivated and in a unique place mentally for that fight.


    Top pros have that same mentality that Victor had that one night, EVERY night.


    Victor is the new Yori Boy Campas. Except Yori Boy fought a lot more often (still fights) and I believe it took more to convince him to quit in many cases.
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