Tyson Fury vs. Dereck Chisora II: who wins?

[Master]

Fury wins points he is a class above Chisora.

[bzkfn]

I say Fury beats him again on points, but Chisora will win rounds this time to make it closer than the first fight.

[ross]

Chisora doesnt look as robust as he was. Losing that weight has affected him.

Would the Chisora that took punches for 12 rounds off Fury, Helenius and Vitali, even Haye up to a point (it wasnt just one shot) gotten hurt by the last two journeymen he fought?

His weight loss should give him better movement and not getting caught but it hasnt and hes not taking them well when he is caught.

There is a recent interview with Don Charles on youtube and he even addresses the same thing. Him and Dereck have spoken together to question why hes getting caught and hurt. His answer was that fighters now know what Dereck does and when he rolls they know where to place the punches. The nterviewer then says that james Ali Bashir has said unless Dereck adapts hes not going to beat any top fighters which nasically confirms what Charles himself said, that Dereck has become predicatble. Hes been around a few years now doing the exact same thing in every round he fights. So much so that even basic journeymen are catching and hurting him.

He will be lucky to get past Johnson.

Dont get me wrong. I like Dereck Chisora, hes fun to watch and has a good attitude to fighting but lets be honest. He isnt getting better. In fact the only fighter I could see him beating fairly comfortably is Stiverene. He could outwork him.

[Fenster]

The fitter more active Chisora looks much better to me. I backed Fury first time around but think Chisora could definitely win a rematch.

Last time he had Fury rocking and rolling all over the place in the 2nd round so there's definitely a possibility he can KO him. He also has the experience of fighting genuine world-class guys like Vitali and Haye in front of huge crowds. Fury has yet to taste anything like that and he's nuts. Even his trainer has criticised him for blowing the gameplan once he gets in the ring.

[El Kabong]

First off, I don't think Chisora will get by Johnson unless he gets a dodgy decision (which is totally likely).

But if they fight I have Fury by late stoppage for a few reasons.

1. Chisora is an aging pressure fighter with little to no power
2. Fury will be confident from his previous win over Chisora and will probably look to build upon the previous win over him.
3. Fury may be dumb, but Chisora is mentally unstable to the point it will cost him in big fights.

[Memphis]

Fury hasnt got a great chin I dont think there's any denying that but he tends to recover OK, average hitters might get him in a bit of bother, even floor him but he tends to get up or work through it alright. Chisora isnt going to hit him with blinding speed or power like a David Haye would/could have so I dont see him sparking Fury out. He'll get a few clumps in and maybe shake Fury up and have him stumbling about and grabbing on a bit. Ultimately though I think its a repeat of fight one.

[erics44]

im surprised at the lack of people going for chiz on points

[Beanz]

Fury has hardly progressed. If not punching yourself in the face is progression then he is a jammy bastard to be toasted for it. Chisora on points is entirely reasonable.

[nuggetdotcom]

Just to be controversial, this is a bit like the Italian SAS - who cares who wins?

They are both bloody useless and we are being bamboozled by fat Mick and Terry Marsh's target practice Warren's hype.

Equality for england! Our heavyweights are just as bad as everybody elses!

I wish I could get older quicker and move on to a more useful batch of heavyweights, ask your mates in the pub, they've never even heard of Tyson bloody Fury or Derek Chisora, even though to his credit Chis fought a Klit for a real world title.

Doomed, we're all doomed! British heavyweights are fucked, for the moment........

[palmerq]

First off, I don't think Chisora will get by Johnson unless he gets a dodgy decision (which is totally likely).

I really think you are totally wrong about chisora v johnson... when johnson fought vitali he barley punched or did anything and he's just got older since then. He looked worse v tyson fury too.. I can't see anyway johnson beats chisora unless he becomes a totally different boxer :S




as for fury v chisora I think fury is a bit of a donkey but he is not without upside and I think his alright ability and large size will overcome chisora again for a points win. I hope this fight happens soon, I think it will make for an entertaining contest and then the winner can go onto bigger and better things afterwards

[FinitoElDinamita]

Tyson

[Vendettos]

I voted even.

Hard to guess when Chisora is essentially a completely different fighter now.

[Bo-Bo24]

Chisora lost the first fight and I don't see any progression from him to suggest he'll win again, the only people he's beaten are European journeyman and he hasn't looked amazing doing that.

[ross]

Chisora lost the first fight and I don't see any progression from him to suggest he'll win again, the only people he's beaten are European journeyman and he hasn't looked amazing doing that.

Exactly!

[La Cucaracha]

Pretty even at this stage