Tyson Fury vs. Dereck Chisora II: who wins?

[palmerq]

First off, I don't think Chisora will get by Johnson unless he gets a dodgy decision (which is totally likely).

I really think you are totally wrong about chisora v johnson... when johnson fought vitali he barley punched or did anything and he's just got older since then. He looked worse v tyson fury too.. I can't see anyway johnson beats chisora unless he becomes a totally different boxer :S




as for fury v chisora I think fury is a bit of a donkey but he is not without upside and I think his alright ability and large size will overcome chisora again for a points win. I hope this fight happens soon, I think it will make for an entertaining contest and then the winner can go onto bigger and better things afterwards

[FinitoElDinamita]

Tyson

[ross]

Its funny!

I can see people sticking to their guns purely because they cant stand Fury

Chisora was beaten by Fury when he had ambition and was undefeated. He had 3 or 4 months to get ready for that fight and was in 2 training camps to face Wladimir before that!

Chisora gets praise just for facing a Klitschko? Wlad promised the winner of Chisora Fury a title shot. After the fight, he baulks and then Vitali faces Chisora after he loses again! Makes sense doesnt it

As for Johnson not doing much V Fury and Klitschko. They are giants! Both can fight at a distance. Johnson is a clever, defensive, counter puncher and Chisora is a swarming brawler who has been getting tagged and hurt by much lesser fighters recently. Johnson is rubbing his hands together because his style is murder for Chisoras career!

[Silkeyjoe]

Its funny!

I can see people sticking to their guns purely because they cant stand Fury

Chisora was beaten by Fury when he had ambition and was undefeated. He had 3 or 4 months to get ready for that fight and was in 2 training camps to face Wladimir before that!

Chisora gets praise just for facing a Klitschko? Wlad promised the winner of Chisora Fury a title shot. After the fight, he baulks and then Vitali faces Chisora after he loses again! Makes sense doesnt it

As for Johnson not doing much V Fury and Klitschko. They are giants! Both can fight at a distance. Johnson is a clever, defensive, counter puncher and Chisora is a swarming brawler who has been getting tagged and hurt by much lesser fighters recently. Johnson is rubbing his hands together because his style is murder for Chisoras career!

His poor conditioning showed his lack of ambition. This was always his problem. You are making out Furys win over Chisora as something special but there is probably about 50 heavyweights who would have beat that version of Chisora. It means nothing.

I agree with you about people picking Chisora cz of their hate for Fury, which is a bit silly given Fury is also in much better shape then he was a few years ago. It should be a closer fight this time but Fury should be winning

[mrbig1]

Watching video of Tyson Fury. He's just waiting to get hit. If Chisora heart is into the fight he should win. Offen times Chisora is just plan lazy. The best he ever look was his loss to Haye. At least he came to fight. Haye just had way too much talent for him. Fury is not nearly as good as Haye. I see Fury kissing the canvas at least 3 times in this fight.

[ross]

Its funny!

I can see people sticking to their guns purely because they cant stand Fury

Chisora was beaten by Fury when he had ambition and was undefeated. He had 3 or 4 months to get ready for that fight and was in 2 training camps to face Wladimir before that!

Chisora gets praise just for facing a Klitschko? Wlad promised the winner of Chisora Fury a title shot. After the fight, he baulks and then Vitali faces Chisora after he loses again! Makes sense doesnt it

As for Johnson not doing much V Fury and Klitschko. They are giants! Both can fight at a distance. Johnson is a clever, defensive, counter puncher and Chisora is a swarming brawler who has been getting tagged and hurt by much lesser fighters recently. Johnson is rubbing his hands together because his style is murder for Chisoras career!

His poor conditioning showed his lack of ambition. This was always his problem. You are making out Furys win over Chisora as something special but there is probably about 50 heavyweights who would have beat that version of Chisora. It means nothing.

I agree with you about people picking Chisora cz of their hate for Fury, which is a bit silly given Fury is also in much better shape then he was a few years ago. It should be a closer fight this time but Fury should be winning

I cant get past seeing Chisora having to back peddle against his last two opponents. They were shit!

Ok Tyson got hurt in his last fight but regardless what anyone says, he was in with a world class fighter who was in very good shape at 210lb. Someone said he was cutting water to get to cruiser, if thats the case hes obviously a much stronger fighter at his natural weight now. Fury has shown he can be hurt before hand whereas Chisora was always sturdy. Maybe that shot he took off Haye it the Vitali press conference has affected his resiliance. It certainly wouldnt have helped it.

He just seems a more vulnerable fighter now. Maybe its the weght loss? He doesnt look any more cut or defined at the lower weight so he must have dropped as much muscle as fat. Whatever, hes not as strong as he was.

He will not be as effective against Fury as he was last time.

Johnson is much better than hes being given credit for and Chisora will be in his face all night which is what Johnson will want. If Chisora can be caught so easily by his last two opponents im sure Johnson will also catch him. The difference being Johnson has a touch of class and will be ale to keep Chisora hurt.

[Silkeyjoe]

Its funny!

I can see people sticking to their guns purely because they cant stand Fury

Chisora was beaten by Fury when he had ambition and was undefeated. He had 3 or 4 months to get ready for that fight and was in 2 training camps to face Wladimir before that!

Chisora gets praise just for facing a Klitschko? Wlad promised the winner of Chisora Fury a title shot. After the fight, he baulks and then Vitali faces Chisora after he loses again! Makes sense doesnt it

As for Johnson not doing much V Fury and Klitschko. They are giants! Both can fight at a distance. Johnson is a clever, defensive, counter puncher and Chisora is a swarming brawler who has been getting tagged and hurt by much lesser fighters recently. Johnson is rubbing his hands together because his style is murder for Chisoras career!

His poor conditioning showed his lack of ambition. This was always his problem. You are making out Furys win over Chisora as something special but there is probably about 50 heavyweights who would have beat that version of Chisora. It means nothing.

I agree with you about people picking Chisora cz of their hate for Fury, which is a bit silly given Fury is also in much better shape then he was a few years ago. It should be a closer fight this time but Fury should be winning

I cant get past seeing Chisora having to back peddle against his last two opponents. They were shit!

Ok Tyson got hirt in hos last fight but regardless what anyone says, he was in with a world class fighter who was in bery good shape at 210lb. Someone said he was cutting water to get to cruiser, if thats the case hes obviously a much stringer fighter at his natural weight now. Firy has shown he can been hurt before hand whereas Chisora was always sturdy. Maybe that shot he took off Haye it the Vitali press conference has affected his resiliance. It certainly wouldnt have helped it.

He just seems a more vulnerable fighter now. Maybe its the weght loss? He doesnt look any more cut or defined at the lower weight so he must have dropped as much muscle as fat. Whatever, hes not as strong as he was.

He will not be as effective against Fury as he was last time.

Johnson is much better than hes being given credit for and Chisora will be in his face all night which is what Johnson will want. If Chisora can be caught so easily by his last two opponents im sure Johnson will also catch him. The difference being Johnson has a touch of class and will be ale to keep Chisora hurt.

I dont think Cunningham lost much water to make Cruiser, he could just eat what he wanted in preparation for heavyweight. Yes he would be sttronger at heavyweight but he still isnt strong.

Chisora might be more vulnerable, he might be a bit shot worn but it doesnt make a difference he is still going to have a better chance of beating Fury now because he will be able to let his hands go. Chisora was winning the fight against Fury in the 1st two round. Then he gassed and barely through a punch and just lay on the ropes and let Fury hit him. Now he will know he can go the distance and will be able to keep the pressure on Fury.

Will Furys power earn Chisoras respect? Its hard to know. Hes in a lot better shape now so should be stronger this time. He also looks like he knows how to use his size a bit better so will be able to drain Chisora by leaning on him. But this is all speculation as he hasnt shown much power before. Even Chisora being hurt by "2 european journeymen" doesnt mean Fury can hurt him as there is not much to suggest Fury has any more one punch power then these guys. Who has Fury one punched KOd? His power comes from accumulation but I have a feeling he wont let his hands go early on against Chisora because of his suspect chin.

[AdamGB]

Fury to spoil his way to an ugly UD.

[ross]

Its funny!

I can see people sticking to their guns purely because they cant stand Fury

Chisora was beaten by Fury when he had ambition and was undefeated. He had 3 or 4 months to get ready for that fight and was in 2 training camps to face Wladimir before that!

Chisora gets praise just for facing a Klitschko? Wlad promised the winner of Chisora Fury a title shot. After the fight, he baulks and then Vitali faces Chisora after he loses again! Makes sense doesnt it

As for Johnson not doing much V Fury and Klitschko. They are giants! Both can fight at a distance. Johnson is a clever, defensive, counter puncher and Chisora is a swarming brawler who has been getting tagged and hurt by much lesser fighters recently. Johnson is rubbing his hands together because his style is murder for Chisoras career!

His poor conditioning showed his lack of ambition. This was always his problem. You are making out Furys win over Chisora as something special but there is probably about 50 heavyweights who would have beat that version of Chisora. It means nothing.

I agree with you about people picking Chisora cz of their hate for Fury, which is a bit silly given Fury is also in much better shape then he was a few years ago. It should be a closer fight this time but Fury should be winning

I cant get past seeing Chisora having to back peddle against his last two opponents. They were shit!

Ok Tyson got hirt in hos last fight but regardless what anyone says, he was in with a world class fighter who was in bery good shape at 210lb. Someone said he was cutting water to get to cruiser, if thats the case hes obviously a much stringer fighter at his natural weight now. Firy has shown he can been hurt before hand whereas Chisora was always sturdy. Maybe that shot he took off Haye it the Vitali press conference has affected his resiliance. It certainly wouldnt have helped it.

He just seems a more vulnerable fighter now. Maybe its the weght loss? He doesnt look any more cut or defined at the lower weight so he must have dropped as much muscle as fat. Whatever, hes not as strong as he was.

He will not be as effective against Fury as he was last time.

Johnson is much better than hes being given credit for and Chisora will be in his face all night which is what Johnson will want. If Chisora can be caught so easily by his last two opponents im sure Johnson will also catch him. The difference being Johnson has a touch of class and will be ale to keep Chisora hurt.

I dont think Cunningham lost much water to make Cruiser, he could just eat what he wanted in preparation for heavyweight. Yes he would be sttronger at heavyweight but he still isnt strong.

Chisora might be more vulnerable, he might be a bit shot worn but it doesnt make a difference he is still going to have a better chance of beating Fury now because he will be able to let his hands go. Chisora was winning the fight against Fury in the 1st two round. Then he gassed and barely through a punch and just lay on the ropes and let Fury hit him. Now he will know he can go the distance and will be able to keep the pressure on Fury.

Will Furys power earn Chisoras respect? Its hard to know. Hes in a lot better shape now so should be stronger this time. He also looks like he knows how to use his size a bit better so will be able to drain Chisora by leaning on him. But this is all speculation as he hasnt shown much power before. Even Chisora being hurt by "2 european journeymen" doesnt mean Fury can hurt him as there is not much to suggest Fury has any more one punch power then these guys. Who has Fury one punched KOd? His power comes from accumulation but I have a feeling he wont let his hands go early on against Chisora because of his suspect chin.

Cunningham isnt strong? He dealt with the heavyweight version of Adamek tons better than Arreola could! Cunningham was robbed, Arreola lost clear and got battered!

Chisora did not win the first two rounds! You have to be blind, joking or very biased to give the first round to Chisora! Fury did all the work and made Chisora hold a few times from some nice left hooks! Watch it again...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eFvO3vMWMSw

[Memphis]

Maybe that shot he took off Haye it the Vitali press conference has affected his resiliance. It certainly wouldnt have helped it.

I dont want to start a conspiracy here but maybe it was the legal hammering he took in the ring from Haye?

[ross]

Maybe that shot he took off Haye it the Vitali press conference has affected his resiliance. It certainly wouldnt have helped it.

I dont want to start a conspiracy here but maybe it was the legal hammering he took in the ring from Haye?

You do realise their scuffle was before that?

Chisora took a full blooded bear knuckled right hand off Haye and didn't get knocked out but it may well have affected his long term ability to take a shot. It still wasn't just a single shot that Haye stopped him with but now Chisoras getting hurt left right and centre by journeymen.

[Vendettos]

Its funny!

I can see people sticking to their guns purely because they cant stand Fury

Chisora was beaten by Fury when he had ambition and was undefeated. He had 3 or 4 months to get ready for that fight and was in 2 training camps to face Wladimir before that!

Chisora gets praise just for facing a Klitschko? Wlad promised the winner of Chisora Fury a title shot. After the fight, he baulks and then Vitali faces Chisora after he loses again! Makes sense doesnt it

As for Johnson not doing much V Fury and Klitschko. They are giants! Both can fight at a distance. Johnson is a clever, defensive, counter puncher and Chisora is a swarming brawler who has been getting tagged and hurt by much lesser fighters recently. Johnson is rubbing his hands together because his style is murder for Chisoras career!

So will you be in the ring for the fight or will you release Tyson's cock?

[ross]

Its funny!

I can see people sticking to their guns purely because they cant stand Fury

Chisora was beaten by Fury when he had ambition and was undefeated. He had 3 or 4 months to get ready for that fight and was in 2 training camps to face Wladimir before that!

Chisora gets praise just for facing a Klitschko? Wlad promised the winner of Chisora Fury a title shot. After the fight, he baulks and then Vitali faces Chisora after he loses again! Makes sense doesnt it

As for Johnson not doing much V Fury and Klitschko. They are giants! Both can fight at a distance. Johnson is a clever, defensive, counter puncher and Chisora is a swarming brawler who has been getting tagged and hurt by much lesser fighters recently. Johnson is rubbing his hands together because his style is murder for Chisoras career!

So will you be in the ring for the fight or will you release Tyson's cock?

Ah... Thats a shame!

Your slipping back in to twat mode. Its like a reflex.

I didnt even praise Fury there!

[palmerq]

As for Johnson not doing much V Fury and Klitschko. They are giants! Both can fight at a distance. Johnson is a clever, defensive, counter puncher and Chisora is a swarming brawler who has been getting tagged and hurt by much lesser fighters recently. Johnson is rubbing his hands together because his style is murder for Chisoras career!

It would be very funny if johnson wins... but I dont see it... even if he does do well it will be nearly impossible for teh judges to give him the decision.. Even though I hope johnson wins, I want to see chisora v fury 2.. so a chisora win would be best for entertainment value in the fury chisora rematch.