Enough of this "Self-Defense" nonsense crap!!

[greynotsoold]

In Florida, in most cases, when the 'Stand Your Ground' law comes into play, it is an individual defending themselves against another person of the same race. More often than not, it involves a black guy shooting another black guy, of a hispanic guy shooting another hispanic guy. And, generally, there are witnesses to corroborate the shooter's story so it is not an issue. A white guy shooting a black guy plays into an agenda- and you can trace this back to the frank Lyga/Kevin Gaines shooting in LA years ago, in which the white shooter and black victim were both cops. Google that one.
That said, I don't understand why this had to happen. I don't know why a guy sitting in front of a convenience store can't just put up with a bunch of young men playing loud music for a moment, then go on his way. Wasn't he ever young? It isn't like he's trapped in a room with them listening to some horrible noise, you know? Just let it go. But I wasn't there, so I don't know, and, at this point, every bit of info will be self-serving at best, if not a flat out lie.
I am a firm believer that every individual should be allowed to defend themselves, to take it to the dirt, to carry a gun or a sword. That right should never be infringed. I am equally convinced that there are people that arm themselves out of fear, inadequacy and insecurity and those people are dangerous. Because the weapon makes them brave and their insecurity makes them seek confrontation, while their fear makes them unreliable. I don't know how you screen for that because there is no reliable way to detect it until you see somebody in a stressful situation.

[bradlee180]

Fear, yes.

Y'know, plenty of these weekend hunter types are scared in the bush.
Without that rifle to cling to as their security, plenty of these outdoor-type guys wouldn't go in the bush at all out of fear. You gotta have that respect for the bush, but for $#!t's sake!

[Andre]

In Florida, in most cases, when the 'Stand Your Ground' law comes into play, it is an individual defending themselves against another person of the same race. More often than not, it involves a black guy shooting another black guy, of a hispanic guy shooting another hispanic guy. And, generally, there are witnesses to corroborate the shooter's story so it is not an issue. A white guy shooting a black guy plays into an agenda- and you can trace this back to the frank Lyga/Kevin Gaines shooting in LA years ago, in which the white shooter and black victim were both cops. Google that one.
That said, I don't understand why this had to happen. I don't know why a guy sitting in front of a convenience store can't just put up with a bunch of young men playing loud music for a moment, then go on his way. Wasn't he ever young? It isn't like he's trapped in a room with them listening to some horrible noise, you know? Just let it go. But I wasn't there, so I don't know, and, at this point, every bit of info will be self-serving at best, if not a flat out lie.
I am a firm believer that every individual should be allowed to defend themselves, to take it to the dirt, to carry a gun or a sword. That right should never be infringed. I am equally convinced that there are people that arm themselves out of fear, inadequacy and insecurity and those people are dangerous. Because the weapon makes them brave and their insecurity makes them seek confrontation, while their fear makes them unreliable. I don't know how you screen for that because there is no reliable way to detect it until you see somebody in a stressful situation.

So true. A weekend boot camp where they get put under pressure is about the only way one could tell. Some of these fruit cakes need to prove themselves worthy before being given a weapon.