Training Regimens of boxers throughout the ages

[brocktonblockbust]

Lets make this a sticky maybe?? @Andre Would be good----lets try and leave folklore out of it---I am talking about real facts about the training regimens of alltime greats like Joe Louis, Sonny Liston, Evander Holyfield, etc. I wold like to keep it to diet, speciically what they ate and be abe to compare it to the diets of later years. For example, how would Jack Dempseys diet while training differ from Mike Tysons or lets compare the exercise routines of them all.

[johnsebastianmiran]

I like the Rock's choice of beverage during training. He said the beer kept his weight up there where he wanted it. I read it in Ring Magazine quite a few moons ago.

[Andre]

Probably stick it, if it was in the training section mate. In here we usually let threads take their own course.See what happens/can shift it too if you want.

[cambay411]

It seems like I've tried to look up the work out routines of many fighters but its hard to find.

[Maravilla2012]

Sugar Ray Robinson would drink a cup of blood before a fight to scare he's opponents don't know if that counts.

[Bo-Bo24]

Sugar Ray Robinson would drink a cup of blood before a fight to scare he's opponents don't know if that counts.

Technically thats a form of doiping, Lance Armstrong would have blood injected into him before his races to reduce fatigue and increase the supply of oxygen to his muscles

[Maravilla2012]

Sugar Ray Robinson would drink a cup of blood before a fight to scare he's opponents don't know if that counts.

Technically thats a form of doiping, Lance Armstrong would have blood injected into him before his races to reduce fatigue and increase the supply of oxygen to his muscles

I think drinking and injecting are two different things.

[brocktonblockbust]

I like the Rock's choice of beverage during training. He said the beer kept his weight up there where he wanted it. I read it in Ring Magazine quite a few moons ago.

wtf?? you aint talkin bout Marciano I hope.

[Andre]

Here in the land of Oz we like to drink piss while watching a fight.
At first when we heard a fighter was drinking his own piss, we all thought fair enough who likes sharing a can; but then we found out they were talking about real piss .

[Max Power]

One of the things that has lifted the game of the modern era of boxers far beyond what any of their predecessors could achieve is the far more intricate and thorough use of the focus mitt.

The mitt was not really even used widespread until not THAT long ago, I forget exactly when.

And today we see how trainers with mitts and targets over their body form the core of all skills training of boxers.

Although there is no substitute for sparring for performance under fighting conditions, the focus mitt has an advantage for pure skills development in actual fact. It allows the boxer to fine tune his shots without having to worry about getting hurt with much more repetition than possible in sparring, clearly being the next most important tool in the boxers arsenal.

[Max Power]

Whilst Holyfield was the first to incorporate periodisation of training into his regime, he was not the first to adopt weight training as a major part of his routine. It was in fact Michael Spinks to the best of my knowledge when he against the established beliefs of the time used them to transform him from a light HW into a HW in order for him to conquer LArry Holmes and ruin his undefeated streak.

Now days there is barely a boxer in any weight range who does not incorporate some form of strength training into their routines.

Some other major evolutions in training are the recognition that the speed ball is useless as a training tool contributing little to any aspect of boxing performance and is now a show off tool on media day, interval training completely superceding distance work with duration and intensities geared to the development of the energy systems we now know contribute. And recovery. Our warm up, cool down and preparatory work to avoid injuries are different across the eras.

[ross]

Stuff iv just read...

The speed ball is not useless. Hang it high and use it. It focusses your mind amd knackers your front deltoids holding up your arms.

"Focus mitts" not just for skills. I used to love the pads because you were forced to work at a high tempo, not your own on the bags. This is where good fitness came from for me, theowing lots of punches.

I see alot of pad holders and not trainers now everyone has watched Mayweather on the pads.

Its pathetic. That stuff on the pads, his trainer is doing as much work as he is meeting his gloves. What is the point in the pad work at all? Hes not sharpening up his distance and timing because someone is meeting the glove for him. It bugs me when I see that shit and then they look at the camera and make you cringe because they really believe you should be impressed!

Drinking blood?..... Your are eating it, your body would digest it, you arent injecting it in to your own blood stream.....

Thats the same logic as iv seen body builders talk about eating bulls testicals to get all the testosterone!

[cambay411]

One of the things that has lifted the game of the modern era of boxers far beyond what any of their predecessors could achieve is the far more intricate and thorough use of the focus mitt.

The mitt was not really even used widespread until not THAT long ago, I forget exactly when.

And today we see how trainers with mitts and targets over their body form the core of all skills training of boxers.

Although there is no substitute for sparring for performance under fighting conditions, the focus mitt has an advantage for pure skills development in actual fact. It allows the boxer to fine tune his shots without having to worry about getting hurt with much more repetition than possible in sparring, clearly being the next most important tool in the boxers arsenal.

Good post. As far as practice for putting combos together and mixing defense with punches I don't think even sparring can compare to mitt work.

[cambay411]

Whilst Holyfield was the first to incorporate periodisation of training into his regime, he was not the first to adopt weight training as a major part of his routine. It was in fact Michael Spinks to the best of my knowledge when he against the established beliefs of the time used them to transform him from a light HW into a HW in order for him to conquer LArry Holmes and ruin his undefeated streak.

Now days there is barely a boxer in any weight range who does not incorporate some form of strength training into their routines.

Some other major evolutions in training are the recognition that the speed ball is useless as a training tool contributing little to any aspect of boxing performance and is now a show off tool on media day, interval training completely superceding distance work with duration and intensities geared to the development of the energy systems we now know contribute. And recovery. Our warm up, cool down and preparatory work to avoid injuries are different across the eras.

Got to disagree about the speed bag (speed ball). Surely no one sees the speed bag as a useless tool for boxing training. That's big time shoulder conditioning, timing and helps coordinate your lower body with your punches.


Technique wise it doesn't do much but it definately contribute to boxing performance.

[ross]

One of the things that has lifted the game of the modern era of boxers far beyond what any of their predecessors could achieve is the far more intricate and thorough use of the focus mitt.

The mitt was not really even used widespread until not THAT long ago, I forget exactly when.

And today we see how trainers with mitts and targets over their body form the core of all skills training of boxers.

Although there is no substitute for sparring for performance under fighting conditions, the focus mitt has an advantage for pure skills development in actual fact. It allows the boxer to fine tune his shots without having to worry about getting hurt with much more repetition than possible in sparring, clearly being the next most important tool in the boxers arsenal.

Good post. As far as practice for putting combos together and mixing defense with punches I don't think even sparring can compare to mitt work.

You can look like Ray Leonard on the pads but then look like Ray Charles against an opponent!

You will learn far more about what works when someones fighting back than you will just throwing punches against pads.