Lomanchenko V Salido - WBO Featherweight title - Alamodome - Texas - 1/3/2014

[armin]

I hope people don't shit on loma to much , I missed the last three rounds, I had salido up but nothing crazy. Its a fresh breath of air for a dude to not wana feed on bums and hell it didn't work so what he probably gained more experience in this fight than fighting ten bums, salido ain't no joke, and he did come in as a welter and cole is a joke

[IamInuit]

I hope people don't shit on loma to much , I missed the last three rounds, I had salido up but nothing crazy. Its a fresh breath of air for a dude to not wana feed on bums and hell it didn't work so what he probably gained more experience in this fight than fighting ten bums, salido ain't no joke, and he did come in as a welter and cole is a joke

People are already calling him a hype job lol. Boxing fans kill me at times. I agree with you. We all bitch about the coddling and padding and this guy jumps at an opportunity and now he's a hypejob.

[Kirkland Laing]

Compare Mikey Garcia's performance against Salido and the fight tonight. Lomachenko's hands and feet weren't nearly as fast as Garcia's were against the same guy. Loma's supposedly special one of a kind attributes aren't that special after all.

[smashup]

Compare Mikey Garcia's performance against Salido and the fight tonight. Lomachenko's hands and feet weren't nearly as fast as Garcia's were against the same guy. Loma's supposedly special one of a kind attributes aren't that special after all.

Garcia didnt fight him at Welterweight

[walrus]

Did Chavez at least make weight this time.

[Kirkland Laing]

Compare Mikey Garcia's performance against Salido and the fight tonight. Lomachenko's hands and feet weren't nearly as fast as Garcia's were against the same guy. Loma's supposedly special one of a kind attributes aren't that special after all.

Garcia didnt fight him at Welterweight

What weight did Loma fight at last time out? He boiled down to feather for this fight. Size difference was irrlelevant.

[Kirkland Laing]

Size difference not irrelevant in this fight.

[walrus]

do we have a Chavez Vera thread

[Britkid]

I hope people don't shit on loma to much , I missed the last three rounds, I had salido up but nothing crazy. Its a fresh breath of air for a dude to not wana feed on bums and hell it didn't work so what he probably gained more experience in this fight than fighting ten bums, salido ain't no joke, and he did come in as a welter and cole is a joke

People are already calling him a hype job lol. Boxing fans kill me at times. I agree with you. We all bitch about the coddling and padding and this guy jumps at an opportunity and now he's a hypejob.

I would disagree. No matter how good the amateur they still need to adapt to the 'new' sport. In the UK it is like a top class Rugby League player moving over to Rugby Union. The player maybe top notch but they will need time to learn new strategies, plays, positions and also new training methods.


Even the very best amateurs and Lomanchenko is such, need time to bed in. Maybe not tons of time, but still a bit. Look at Ray Leonard or De La Hoya, top class amateurs they still took a year/18 months to adapt, and they did not turn out too bad.


And this is not hindsight, I wrote this down in the thread before the fight. The only example we have of a top amateur fighting the best from fight one is Rademacher, and that did not turn out so well. I hope Lomanchenko's management reflect on this, before deciding what to do next, before it is too late.

[armin]

I hope people don't shit on loma to much , I missed the last three rounds, I had salido up but nothing crazy. Its a fresh breath of air for a dude to not wana feed on bums and hell it didn't work so what he probably gained more experience in this fight than fighting ten bums, salido ain't no joke, and he did come in as a welter and cole is a joke

People are already calling him a hype job lol. Boxing fans kill me at times. I agree with you. We all bitch about the coddling and padding and this guy jumps at an opportunity and now he's a hypejob.

I would disagree. No matter how good the amateur they still need to adapt to the 'new' sport. In the UK it is like a top class Rugby League player moving over to Rugby Union. The player maybe top notch but they will need time to learn new strategies, plays, positions and also new training methods.


Even the very best amateurs and Lomanchenko is such, need time to bed in. Maybe not tons of time, but still a bit. Look at Ray Leonard or De La Hoya, top class amateurs they still took a year/18 months to adapt, and they did not turn out too bad.


And this is not hindsight, I wrote this down in the thread before the fight. The only example we have of a top amateur fighting the best from fight one is Rademacher, and that did not turn out so well. I hope Lomanchenko's management reflect on this, before deciding what to do next, before it is too late.

and yes he probably should have had a few fights before taking on salido but lets not shit on the guy and call him a hypejob cause he lost to a legit dude who beats everyone but the very elite as of late...and hell loma didnt make excuses for it bu he did fight a welter tonight, comend the guy for going for it and hopfully now he can have his five or six bumfights and come back stronger.

[Fenster]

I was impressed by the way Lomachenko finished the fight. If he started more agressive he'd have probably won. The plan backfired but he more than showed with experience he has the potential to become a top pro.

Needs to stop holding. Needs to learn to pace the fight right. Needs to learn that when you get smacked in the nuts 200 times a round it's in your best interests to make the ref aware of it. Especially when the ref is as blind and pathetic as Laurence Cole.

[Britkid]

I was impressed by the way Lomachenko finished the fight. If he started more agressive he'd have probably won. The plan backfired but he more than showed with experience he has the potential to become a top pro.

Needs to stop holding. Needs to learn to pace the fight right. Needs to learn that when you get smacked in the nuts 200 times a round it's in your best interests to make the ref aware of it. Especially when the ref is as blind and pathetic as Laurence Cole.

In other words needs a year or so of fighting half dozen good fighters, where he can 'learn his trade' before taking on the cream of the division...

[Beanflicker]

I give big respect to Lomanchenko. In a sport where young guys are afraid to take risks in fear of failing and falling into obscurity, he jumped into the deep end right away with a complete monster in Salido, who had a huge size advantage.

Obviously he had a lot of problems with Salido and there's obviously still that awkward adjusting period he needs to go through to become a legit pro, but he fought well, made a relatively close fight out of it and made no excuses. So good for him. I wish more guys were like him and took huge risks in this sport.