Sorry for running on fumes a little at the start of the thread, I needed a rest. With all the terrible things that have happened to our countries in terms of the elite essentially imposing a police state, invading countries, denying rights, torturing, rendition, etc etc. It just seems that 9-11 was the perfect pretext to do all that, just as the Gulf of Tonkin was the perfect lie to start napalming Vietnam.

I'm not really looking at it from an analysis of buildings, plane trajectories or anything like that, but considering what we get up to as the leading rogue states, would I rule out that we would carry out our version of the burning down of the Reichstag?

Looking at the government responses to even the NSA scandals. They lie, new information comes out, they lie and readjust, then they get caught again. It almost becomes a comedy routine. There is something in this particular class of elite that is completely lacking in credibility and on every issue now I think people are automatically calling BS.

Even on 9-11 the government narrative is just not working. I think something like 40% of Americans think the government was in on it. Looking at how easy it was for the planes to be hijacked, how easy it was for the Saudi's to get out of America, and of course the smaller building falling. Also hadn't the Pentagon revealed that billions had gone missing a few days prior? Then suddenly a terrorist attack and that story basically vanished.