Floyd Mayweather's exuses to not fight Manny Pacqioua: A DEFINITIVE COLLECTION!

[Master]

Both are to blame and I hate them for depriving us fans the opportunity of seeing a great match.

[Beanflicker]

Both are to blame and I hate them for depriving us fans the opportunity of seeing a great match.

Agreed. People can take whatever side they want, but in the end it was TWO prima donna athletes who couldn't come to terms about money, drug testing, ect and it cost us the fight of the century.

People are quick to bring up Floyd's excuses and inconsistencies, which is fair enough, but if you're going to do that, why not also bring up the fact that Pac refused olympic style drug testing because he claimed he was afraid of needles, and that it would weaken him, ect.

Every Olympics, THOUSANDS of athletes go through Olympic drug testing without issue and (to my knowledge) NONE of them have come out and said "this really hurts my performance, I'm weakened, ect".

[chris6878]

Both are to blame and I hate them for depriving us fans the opportunity of seeing a great match.

Agreed. People can take whatever side they want, but in the end it was TWO prima donna athletes who couldn't come to terms about money, drug testing, ect and it cost us the fight of the century.

People are quick to bring up Floyd's excuses and inconsistencies, which is fair enough, but if you're going to do that, why not also bring up the fact that Pac refused olympic style drug testing because he claimed he was afraid of needles, and that it would weaken him, ect.

Every Olympics, THOUSANDS of athletes go through Olympic drug testing without issue and (to my knowledge) NONE of them have come out and said "this really hurts my performance, I'm weakened, ect".

blood tests can weaken you. olympic athletes usually do urine tests, and after competition they do the blood. not before a competition.

How many boxers have refused to fight someone because they "suspect" steroid use?

[Beanflicker]

blood tests can weaken you. olympic athletes usually do urine tests, and after competition they do the blood. not before a competition.

How many boxers have refused to fight someone because they "suspect" steroid use?

A little blood withdrawn a week before the fight? Come on. And even assuming it would make a huge difference, it's something that's going to effect both of them, so why would it be an issue? Especially for a guy who's had some bloody wars like Pacquiao.

Boxers don't refuse it because don't have the power or financial security to, because it will mean losing out on a big payday. Floyd has the power to take his ball and go home.

People smashed Mayweather HARD for the drug testing thing, saying "who is he to demand special stipulations", "that's the commissions job not his", ect ect.

First off, in terms of "special stipulations", Manny came up with the stipulation that Floyd would pay 5 million (I could be wrong on the figure) for every pound Mayweather comes in overweight. I don't think it's standard rules for a guy to have to pay 5 million for every pound he comes in overweight - if it was, Lomachenko would be a very happy man right now. So both guys were posturing and demanding special stipulations to protect themselves: fair play to both of them.

As far as people doubting the validity of the Olympic-style drug testing stipulation, you have to realize that the athletic commissions have a PISS POOR track record of busting cheats and protecting the fighters.

They let Resto beat Billy Collins nearly to death with doctored gloves, and would have gotten away with it if Collins' dad hadn't felt his glove after the fight. The commission would have let Margarito batter Mosley with loaded gloves had Richardson not caught him (and let's be honest, who knows how many times Marg used those and got away with it.)

In terms of PEDs, the commissions drug testing is EASILY circumvented. Guys are not getting caught by the commissions: in general, they are only busted with the FBI raids the lab they bought their PEDs from and finds reciepts and records with their names on them.

Floyd's record is very special, he's spent 17 years beating a lot of tough guys to get it, and I don't fault him for wanting to ensure that the guy across the ring from him is on the level.