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    Default Re: Should Scotland stay in the UK?

    I've punched men in a boxing ring and a couple of times outside of the ring in defence when physically attacked.

    I'd never assualt a physically weaker person (which a woman almost always is, I am not differentiating based on a mere arbitory gender status) due to a verbal argument and I never will, to do so would mean a complete lack of self control and morals on my part.

    For example I'd no sooner give you a good beating than I would a woman.

    I only say Woman beater because Connery never confessed to or endorsed giving the elderly, frail or infirm a slap to put them in line... Just woman, which would make him a woman beater?

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    I've punched men in a boxing ring and a couple of times outside of the ring in defence when physically attacked.

    I'd never assualt a physically weaker person (which a woman almost always is, I am not differentiating based on a mere arbitory gender status) due to a verbal argument and I never will, to do so would mean a complete lack of self control and morals on my part.

    For example I'd no sooner give you a good beating than I would a woman.

    I only say Woman beater because Connery never confessed to or endorsed giving the elderly, frail or infirm a slap to put them in line... Just woman, which would make him a woman beater?

    Hope this helps.
    Very well articulated. I agree with you. Nobody should be slapping anyone else and regardless of gender or condition it isn't a very nice thing to be saying.

    Not related to the above, but just a further point about the banks. It isn't just about the fact that they weren't allowed to go bust, it was also the fact that NOTHING was reformed. Okay, you could very well argue that the effect on the economy would have been tremendous, and no doubt it would, but then if you were to bail out fraudulent banks, then surely there had to be consequences for doing so. You don't just allow the public to suffer and not make the banks and bankers themselves suffer. They should feel the brunt of the suffering and that would have meant the top bankers in prison and serious banking reform. None of that happened and so now fraud has been legitimised and we are seeing it all through the government and banking. They have crossed the path into something completely crooked and corrupt and still the public suffer and long will they suffer and those banks haven't paid for their crimes.

    People can handle it if things go wrong and the guilty pay a price. Instead the guilty have got away with it and the people are paying the price. That is the problem with the banks. I would like them to vanish and for banking to be completely nationalised and controlled. I don't see how swamping the public with debt is good for an economy, I really don't. The society of credit and debt is something that is cruel and abusive. People should have been bailed out and the banks left to rot. For too long it is society that has been preyed on by the banks, and eventually when they made a bet too far it collapsed. They deserved it, but they didn't deserve to be helped. The preyed upon deserved to be helped.

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    So, just two weeks until the referendum and its neck and neck, with the Yes campaign just taking the lead according to the most recent surveys. Almost impossible to tell which way it will go, but I really hope the Scots choose to go their own way. Simply choosing to no longer be a nuclear power would make the population as a whole significantly wealthier (leave that to the English if they must have nukes), and the opportunities that come with a more socialist orientated government that isn't run by the billionaires of the South East would see the whole country sharing in the success.

    The only people that aren't winning with a Yes vote is the English and Welsh, as there are still oil companies going to the North Sea, even if the oil fields are reducing. Such an exciting time to be a Scot, looking forward to the results with interest.

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    Very interesting to watch across the bond. I hope you guys stay with England but I know very little of your affairs. Whichever you choose, I hope it works out well. If you break away I wonder if Cameron would pull a Putin, that would be so cool.

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    Apparently, the reason is money
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    Hello, you delightful and exquisite people of the boxing world. I hope all is well with all with both lovers and loathers alike. Particular shout outs to the members of the party.

    How splendid that the Scots appear to be heading down the right track. All I see from London is fear politics and threats and frankly it has been this way from London for decades, but carried out on people everywhere. At least Scotland has the right idea concerning the NHS and student fees and they logically have to cut off the UK link. The Scots have never voted for a Tory government (neither did Britain as a whole actually) and the opportunity to rid itself of the monstrosity that is London based politics has to be taken with both hands.

    There are issues with independence (currency, monarchy etc) but to not take the chance to take matters into their own hands would be criminal. I hope Scotland leads the way in turn Northern Ireand, Wales and then Northern England too can become inspired and be led to freedom.

    The breakup of the UK is something immensely positive and inspiring and if this first step can be taken, great things can hopefully follow. Well done Scotland for staying active and pushing this to the end. You deserve your freedom and so does the rest of the UK. A free Scotland is a game changer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Hello, you delightful and exquisite people of the boxing world. I hope all is well with all with both lovers and loathers alike. Particular shout outs to the members of the party.

    How splendid that the Scots appear to be heading down the right track. All I see from London is fear politics and threats and frankly it has been this way from London for decades, but carried out on people everywhere. At least Scotland has the right idea concerning the NHS and student fees and they logically have to cut off the UK link. The Scots have never voted for a Tory government (neither did Britain as a whole actually) and the opportunity to rid itself of the monstrosity that is London based politics has to be taken with both hands.

    There are issues with independence (currency, monarchy etc) but to not take the chance to take matters into their own hands would be criminal. I hope Scotland leads the way in turn Northern Ireand, Wales and then Northern England too can become inspired and be led to freedom.

    The breakup of the UK is something immensely positive and inspiring and if this first step can be taken, great things can hopefully follow. Well done Scotland for staying active and pushing this to the end. You deserve your freedom and so does the rest of the UK. A free Scotland is a game changer.
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