Floyd Mayweather's exuses to not fight Manny Pacqioua: A DEFINITIVE COLLECTION!

[jehoshaphat]

I really thought that sensible boxing people would be exhausted with the Pac/PBF non fight discussions. But for the bias to still be so obvious after almost 5 years is remarkable. Anybody entirely blaming one side without acknowledging the other side's blame is either trolling or outright bias. If were going to debate an old and tired discussion then lets try an "only facts" thread. This should eliminate most of the bias/trolling which only muddies the water and makes for only an argument. Saying one is afraid of the other is an opinion or one is/was using PEDs is merely an accusation. To make a thread over Floyd and act like Pac didn't have very questionable tactics and some outright lies is not a debate. In this particular situation Floyd is kind of a bully(Finitoin negotiations. He pushes until he gets his way and I really think this is the wrong approach for Pac who is the closest to matching Floyd in drawing power. Everybody else has to accept most of it but Pac does have some wiggle room. Lets challenge each other with facts only. Can anybody who thinks its all Floyd's fault explain the Pac lies when he first said no to the testing because he was afraid of needles.(Tattoos) Lie 1. Then agreed to a 30 days before the fight cut off because he felt he would get weak by blood draw too close to the fight. On 24/7 for the Hatton fight it showed Pac getting his blood drawn with less than 2 weeks to the fight. Lie 2. Explain why Pac demanded if Floyd was overweight he would be penalized at the tune of $10 million per pound. How does one explain that Pac turned down $40 million straight up because it wasn't enough but later states the fight isn't about the money and in fact he would fight for free and the money go to charity if Floyd agrees to give his money to charity as well. If Pac really thought Floyd was afraid of him then when Floyd called him personally to offer $40 million all he had to do was call his bluff and say yes and see if there was going to be any backpedaling. I think Pac is being misrepresented and it makes Pac look bad. I personally don't think either fighter is afraid of the other but I do think both teams have their concerns with their legacy, power, and status and we will forever have a stalemate.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Some u guys got me all wrong. Perhaps I didn't express myself properly so let me clairfy.

I'm going out to get drunk tonight stay tuned for my defense. What is this, like a bash finito thread. Lol . I'm always the bad guy huh smh

[jehoshaphat]

Some u guys got me all wrong. Perhaps I didn't express myself properly so let me clairfy.

I'm going out to get drunk tonight stay tuned for my defense. What is this, like a bash finito thread. Lol . I'm always the bad guy huh smh

Its all good bro. Its just that race is never a good subject to go extreme on. But I never intend to bash anyone. And just to be clear...you're going to get drunk and then defend yourself? Oh, this ought to be good

[goti71]

I think both are a bit to blame for the fight not happening but what I find absurd is Floyd constantly bringing up the issue of "I'm the money cow".

What's that got to do with it? Ok, it does give you the prerogative to be choosy but I don't really give a sod how much you make. And neither will anyone else when they talk about you in 20 years time.

Though I do see him* winning, bad excuses don't make legends.

Edit: *Floyd.

[imp]

Some u guys got me all wrong. Perhaps I didn't express myself properly so let me clairfy.

I'm going out to get drunk tonight stay tuned for my defense. What is this, like a bash finito thread. Lol . I'm always the bad guy huh smh

You seem like a good guy finito.

But people are just trying to help you understand how pathetic you sound.

Dont let drink give you confidence that you should already have.

Last of all, keep it real..but real to yourself.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Some u guys got me all wrong. Perhaps I didn't express myself properly so let me clairfy.

I'm going out to get drunk tonight stay tuned for my defense. What is this, like a bash finito thread. Lol . I'm always the bad guy huh smh

You seem like a good guy finito.

But people are just trying to help you understand how pathetic you sound.

Dont let drink give you confidence that you should already have.

Last of all, keep it real..but real to yourself.

Homey, aint nobody drinking to gain confidence..lol I dont like the way u are trying to make me sound.. It was just the usual drinking night on a friday... is that ok?

Like im some kinda chump who needs alcohol to get brave on the internet? Wtf lol

My self belief and confidence blows through the roof and that's what took me this far... da hell u talkin about homey, u talking crazy..

Watcha mean keep it real.. are u implying that im fake? Like im fronting? U sound very judgmental and u dont even know me . U talking that shit about somebody youve never met before..

Maybe u should have some posters like Violent Demise meet me real quick to confirm how I am in person.. he lives few minutes away anyways.

I think u are a good person as well which was why I always kept it civil with u but your last post is hella rubbish ..

Keep it real? Keep it true to myself? Lol u dont know me well enough to be saying all that ..

[Master]

Some u guys got me all wrong. Perhaps I didn't express myself properly so let me clairfy.

I'm going out to get drunk tonight stay tuned for my defense. What is this, like a bash finito thread. Lol . I'm always the bad guy huh smh

You seem like a good guy finito.

But people are just trying to help you understand how pathetic you sound.

Dont let drink give you confidence that you should already have.

Last of all, keep it real..but real to yourself.

Homey, aint nobody drinking to gain confidence..lol I dont like the way u are trying to make me sound.. It was just the usual drinking night on a friday... is that ok?

Like im some kinda chump who needs alcohol to get brave on the internet? Wtf lol

My self belief and confidence blows through the roof and that's what took me this far... da hell u talkin about homey, u talking crazy..

Watcha mean keep it real.. are u implying that im fake? Like im fronting? U sound very judgmental and u dont even know me . U talking that shit about somebody youve never met before..

Maybe u should have some posters like Violent Demise meet me real quick to confirm how I am in person.. he lives few minutes away anyways.

I think u are a good person as well which was why I always kept it civil with u but your last post is hella rubbish ..

Keep it real? Keep it true to myself? Lol u dont know me well enough to be saying all that ..

Imp thinks you are a good guy, remember his first line. You are reading negative things from his post when they are not meant to be

[imp]

Some u guys got me all wrong. Perhaps I didn't express myself properly so let me clairfy.

I'm going out to get drunk tonight stay tuned for my defense. What is this, like a bash finito thread. Lol . I'm always the bad guy huh smh

You seem like a good guy finito.

But people are just trying to help you understand how pathetic you sound.

Dont let drink give you confidence that you should already have.

Last of all, keep it real..but real to yourself.

Homey, aint nobody drinking to gain confidence..lol I dont like the way u are trying to make me sound.. It was just the usual drinking night on a friday... is that ok?

Like im some kinda chump who needs alcohol to get brave on the internet? Wtf lol

My self belief and confidence blows through the roof and that's what took me this far... da hell u talkin about homey, u talking crazy..

Watcha mean keep it real.. are u implying that im fake? Like im fronting? U sound very judgmental and u dont even know me . U talking that shit about somebody youve never met before..

Maybe u should have some posters like Violent Demise meet me real quick to confirm how I am in person.. he lives few minutes away anyways.

I think u are a good person as well which was why I always kept it civil with u but your last post is hella rubbish ..

Keep it real? Keep it true to myself? Lol u dont know me well enough to be saying all that ..

Calm down bro, im just saying what other people might feel.

I can happily speak a certain way when im at work or with my family or with friends (regardless of there ethnicity), all im saying is dont bunch a group of people into a box from just your experience from your group of friends.

My white friends are a certain way and my black friends are a certain way and brown etc and the same goes for all different cultures as theres good and bad in everyone of them.

I enjoy some of your threads and its not an attack but a helpful push in the right direction.

[ykdadamaja]

I really thought that sensible boxing people would be exhausted with the Pac/PBF non fight discussions. But for the bias to still be so obvious after almost 5 years is remarkable. Anybody entirely blaming one side without acknowledging the other side's blame is either trolling or outright bias. If were going to debate an old and tired discussion then lets try an "only facts" thread. This should eliminate most of the bias/trolling which only muddies the water and makes for only an argument. Saying one is afraid of the other is an opinion or one is/was using PEDs is merely an accusation. To make a thread over Floyd and act like Pac didn't have very questionable tactics and some outright lies is not a debate. In this particular situation Floyd is kind of a bully(Finitoin negotiations. He pushes until he gets his way and I really think this is the wrong approach for Pac who is the closest to matching Floyd in drawing power. Everybody else has to accept most of it but Pac does have some wiggle room. Lets challenge each other with facts only. Can anybody who thinks its all Floyd's fault explain the Pac lies when he first said no to the testing because he was afraid of needles.(Tattoos) Lie 1. Then agreed to a 30 days before the fight cut off because he felt he would get weak by blood draw too close to the fight. On 24/7 for the Hatton fight it showed Pac getting his blood drawn with less than 2 weeks to the fight. Lie 2. Explain why Pac demanded if Floyd was overweight he would be penalized at the tune of $10 million per pound. How does one explain that Pac turned down $40 million straight up because it wasn't enough but later states the fight isn't about the money and in fact he would fight for free and the money go to charity if Floyd agrees to give his money to charity as well. If Pac really thought Floyd was afraid of him then when Floyd called him personally to offer $40 million all he had to do was call his bluff and say yes and see if there was going to be any backpedaling. I think Pac is being misrepresented and it makes Pac look bad. I personally don't think either fighter is afraid of the other but I do think both teams have their concerns with their legacy, power, and status and we will forever have a stalemate.

Lies, half truths and erroneous information IS a part of debate. What planet do you live on?