Boxing is No1

[Fenster]

UFC highest ever PPV - 1.6m, 2009 - Brock Lesnar.

2nd highest PPV - 1.1m, 2010 - Brock Lesnar.

3rd highest PPV - 1.1m, 2013 - Weidman vs. Silva II

4th highest PPV - 1m, 2010 - Brock Lesnar

5th highest PPV - 1m, 2008 - Brock Lesnar

So a WWE crossover star is the most popular attraction ever in the UFC. Since Lesnar's last fight they've cracked the million mark just once in four years, with Anderson Silva, who is the UFC P4P equivalent of Floyd, right?

Don't worry about boxing losing Floyd and Manny, you should be worrying about the UFC finding a new WWE star.

[Beanflicker]

Brock was a huge PPV selling machine for sure, but you're also leaving out UFC 158 (St. Pierre vs Diaz) that did 1.1 million and UFC 66 (Ortiz vs Liddell 2) that did over a million.

Big names sell big PPVs for each sport. It's the same with boxing. Check out boxing's PPV numbers.

Pay-per-view - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To find a PPV that cracked 500k buys that didn't feature the name De La Hoya (retired), Mayweather (nearing retirement) or Pacquiao (nearing retirement), you have to go back to 2003 when Roy Jones fought John Ruiz.

The problem with boxing is that it has all it's eggs in one basket. It has a few big names that draw a lot, but those are near retirement and there aren't any real stars set to take their place. Take those guys out of the picture, and PPV revenue is few and far between.

The UFC puts off a show nearly every week (not PPV), I reckon on average about 2 PPV's a month, and they CONSISTENTLY gather several hundred thousand buys. Like I mentioned earlier, UFC 170 did about 400k buys and it was one of the worst cards in recent memory. It was plagued by injuries and fighters dropping out of big fights, and it was headlined by two women fighters. And it STILL outdrew Canelo.

[Beanflicker]

People seem to forget that boxing is a BUSINESS, and businesses need REVENUE to operate.

The revenue that Mayweather generates gives promotion companies the overhead needed to sign other fighters and put on other big matches.

When Mayweather and Pacquiao are gone, who's going to bring home the bacon for boxing? You're talking about a SERIOUS dip in revenue, and there's nobody poised to take control.

[Fenster]

Beanflicker, You're comparing the UFC with American boxing whilst completely ignoring that boxing is a hugely successful global sport that shows no sign of declining due to the UFC.

I can't see any evidence that boxing's popularity has faded in America due to the UFC either.

AS for the UFC 170 girls fight beating Canelo-Angulo? What was the PPV price for both and what did the gate gross? I read the UFC NEVER reveal official figures for any event?

[ykdadamaja]

Beanflicker, You're comparing the UFC with American boxing whilst completely ignoring that boxing is a hugely successful global sport that shows no sign of declining due to the UFC.

I can't see any evidence that boxing's popularity has faded in America due to the UFC either.

AS for the UFC 170 girls fight beating Canelo-Angulo? What was the PPV price for both and what did the gate gross? I read the UFC NEVER reveal official figures for any event?

... and like Kickboxing and Muay Thai wasn't around in other places. I prefer Muay Thai if I had my rathers over UFC any day. jmo...

[ykdadamaja]

UFC highest ever PPV - 1.6m, 2009 - Brock Lesnar.

2nd highest PPV - 1.1m, 2010 - Brock Lesnar.

3rd highest PPV - 1.1m, 2013 - Weidman vs. Silva II

4th highest PPV - 1m, 2010 - Brock Lesnar

5th highest PPV - 1m, 2008 - Brock Lesnar

So a WWE crossover star is the most popular attraction ever in the UFC. Since Lesnar's last fight they've cracked the million mark just once in four years, with Anderson Silva, who is the UFC P4P equivalent of Floyd, right?

Don't worry about boxing losing Floyd and Manny, you should be worrying about the UFC finding a new WWE star.

That stings.... but it's a good sting. I forgot about Lesnar- but the truth is, as you are alluding to, is that he is the side show for the sport more than he was the face of the sport. A WWE man that already had a fan base prior to getting into the UFC.

He is the equivalent of Mike Tyson after the second Holyfield fight. Simply just a travelling circus.... and, as such, people detested Mike for that farce of a second half of a career. Even Mike himself said in his last fight that he lost that it was time to get out of the game IF he continues to embarrass the sport the way he was doing for the last three years prior.


Goes back to another point I made earlier- UFC/MMA are "events", sorta like the circus or carnival. You go to an event. I like good shows and events. I like David Copperfield and David Blaine. But boxing is a brand sport.... a real professional sport. Just can't compare the two anymore.