RIP Tony Benn

[Master]

Morally there is no point of view that will differ between me and Tony Ben. We are on the same side. It is the same moral point of view.

I agree you do have the same beliefs and opinions. You could argue Benn was left behind by the Labour party and if they stayed with him Thatcher would have been in government even longer. Choices have to be made and sometimes you have to update your views and principles for the greater good. Neil Kinnock did that at the cost of him never being prime minister but setting up for Blair.

[Gandalf]

Morally there is no point of view that will differ between me and Tony Ben. We are on the same side. It is the same moral point of view.

I agree you do have the same beliefs and opinions. You could argue Benn was left behind by the Labour party and if they stayed with him Thatcher would have been in government even longer. Choices have to be made and sometimes you have to update your views and principles for the greater good. Neil Kinnock did that at the cost of him never being prime minister but setting up for Blair.

Master, sellling these values will never have helped society. I am angry on the Tony Benn issue because I am a true socialist. I would see it through. No compromise.

What is your agenda: to help the society OR NOT?

[Master]

Morally there is no point of view that will differ between me and Tony Ben. We are on the same side. It is the same moral point of view.

I agree you do have the same beliefs and opinions. You could argue Benn was left behind by the Labour party and if they stayed with him Thatcher would have been in government even longer. Choices have to be made and sometimes you have to update your views and principles for the greater good. Neil Kinnock did that at the cost of him never being prime minister but setting up for Blair.

Master, sellling these values will never have helped society. I am angry on the Tony Benn issue because I am a true socialist. I would see it through.

18 years of misery by Thatcher would have carried on. Sometimes you have to make compromises and concessions for the sake of the public.

[Gandalf]

Morally there is no point of view that will differ between me and Tony Ben. We are on the same side. It is the same moral point of view.

I agree you do have the same beliefs and opinions. You could argue Benn was left behind by the Labour party and if they stayed with him Thatcher would have been in government even longer. Choices have to be made and sometimes you have to update your views and principles for the greater good. Neil Kinnock did that at the cost of him never being prime minister but setting up for Blair.

Master, sellling these values will never have helped society. I am angry on the Tony Benn issue because I am a true socialist. I would see it through.

18 years of misery by Thatcher would have carried on. Sometimes you have to make compromises and concessions for the sake of the public.

No. that didnt help society. It didn't. Societally and morally either, it helped noone.

If Labour was in, and that Labour, it would have been weird, but my heart.

[Gandalf]

Look at how society is today. Bankrupt banks, mass bank of England financial fraud.

This isn't Britain. Nothing like Benn 'England.

[Gandalf]

My point is that I am as strong as always. I want my England to come back.
I don't want to be an alien forever.

[Master]

My point is that I am as strong as always. I want my England to come back.
I don't want to be an alien forever.

Society has moved on and Benn did show innovation when he was a minister with concord but once he was outside he became out of touch. If Labour listened to him they would never have got in parliament and the Liberals would have become the second party. Bob Crowe moved and updated his policies for the new technology and was still powerful person for his members.