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    I'm not a Wilder hater but until he has a real boxing match I can't for the life of me figure out why he is discussed so much on this boxing board.

    I could see discussing his amateur career but his pro career, there's nothing to discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I'm not a Wilder hater but until he has a real boxing match I can't for the life of me figure out why he is discussed so much on this boxing board.

    I could see discussing his amateur career but his pro career, there's nothing to discuss.
    He is of interest because he is a mystery!

    A. Is he one of the best ever punchers? Without a chin or heart.

    B. Is he the biggest hype job in memory? With an above average punch.

    C. Is he the real deal, the one every boxing fan has been waiting for who follows the heavies? With all the heart and chin he will ever need.

    He's a heavyweight with a punch, he's 31-0 with 31 KOs and 18 KOs in the first round. How the hell could he not be of interest to a boxing fan?
    Come Mr Swanson, are you saying you don't want to see him in the ring with Wlad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I'm not a Wilder hater but until he has a real boxing match I can't for the life of me figure out why he is discussed so much on this boxing board.

    I could see discussing his amateur career but his pro career, there's nothing to discuss.
    He is of interest because he is a mystery!

    A. Is he one of the best ever punchers? Without a chin or heart.

    B. Is he the biggest hype job in memory? With an above average punch.

    C. Is he the real deal, the one every boxing fan has been waiting for who follows the heavies? With all the heart and chin he will ever need.

    And each question needs its own thread? No reason to ever step up if coasting makes him so interesting. All I see is different questions nobody has the answer to but people keep asking.

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    Default Re: ... and yet still about Deontay Wilder:

    We might just prefer mysteries in this division because we're not satisfied with most of what we see already. Is there a Santa Claus and how do planes disappear are mysteries worth the time , with heavies fans want statements and answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    We might just prefer mysteries in this division because we're not satisfied with most of what we see already. Is there a Santa Claus and how do planes disappear are mysteries worth the time , with heavies fans want statements and answers.
    I'm not a big Wilder fan. If you want to waste the time, check out my posts about Wilder, most will be negative.
    Wilder does keep winning! The fact that he wins all by KO, hasn't been beyond the 4th or 5th round and hasn't been tested in the ring is the source of all the interest and ridicule.
    I'm not defending Wilder, I was trying to answer Ron's question.

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    Default Re: ... and yet still about Deontay Wilder:

    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    We might just prefer mysteries in this division because we're not satisfied with most of what we see already. Is there a Santa Claus and how do planes disappear are mysteries worth the time , with heavies fans want statements and answers.
    I'm not a big Wilder fan. If you want to waste the time, check out my posts about Wilder, most will be negative.
    Wilder does keep winning! The fact that he wins all by KO, hasn't been beyond the 4th or 5th round and hasn't been tested in the ring is the source of all the interest and ridicule.
    I'm not defending Wilder, I was trying to answer Ron's question.
    Oh no, of course. I just think its another in a long line of promoters trying to microwave a guy to the top. I'm in the skeptical boat as we've all seen so many guys who have faced better run up to eventually fall flat. One guy makes observations and points out obvious holes and he's called a hater, another on the other spectrum goes all in and buys the power push, nest coming etc and he's called a fan boy or whatever. There has to be middle ground and you can only analyze or critique what is actually happened, not what might or we wish would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I'm not a Wilder hater but until he has a real boxing match I can't for the life of me figure out why he is discussed so much on this boxing board.

    I could see discussing his amateur career but his pro career, there's nothing to discuss.
    He is of interest because he is a mystery!

    A. Is he one of the best ever punchers? Without a chin or heart.

    B. Is he the biggest hype job in memory? With an above average punch.

    C. Is he the real deal, the one every boxing fan has been waiting for who follows the heavies? With all the heart and chin he will ever need.

    And each question needs its own thread? No reason to ever step up if coasting makes him so interesting. All I see is different questions nobody has the answer to but people keep asking.
    I can't argue with that? I'm just really interested!

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    I wrote a novel breaking this down but I erased it because I don't want to bore people.

    Short answer to Deontay is he seems to have alarming power. But history shows sloppy fighters with huge power don't hold up. There's no signs he will correct his technique so they either have to avoid resistance or watch him lose except the occasions he catches the guy. So far they've chosen to avoid resistance.

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    Default Re: ... and yet still about Deontay Wilder:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I wrote a novel breaking this down but I erased it because I don't want to bore people.

    Short answer to Deontay is he seems to have alarming power. But history shows sloppy fighters with huge power don't hold up. There's no signs he will correct his technique so they either have to avoid resistance or watch him lose except the occasions he catches the guy. So far they've chosen to avoid resistance.
    So he is the new Earnie Shavers.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I wrote a novel breaking this down but I erased it because I don't want to bore people.

    Short answer to Deontay is he seems to have alarming power. But history shows sloppy fighters with huge power don't hold up. There's no signs he will correct his technique so they either have to avoid resistance or watch him lose except the occasions he catches the guy. So far they've chosen to avoid resistance.
    So he is the new Earnie Shavers.
    Shavers wasn't 6'7. I'm hoping the height n reach will continue to serve Wilder well.

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    I don't know what to think about Wilder, I'd certainly like to see him become the best heavy to ever live. LOL
    All I can say about him is that just because he has big power and gets rid of guys fast does not mean there is something wrong with him. If any fighter can make a short night of it, he would be stupid to do anything else.
    We have to wait until he gets in with an opponent who has proven his worth. It's getting closer and closer!

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