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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo-Bo24 View Post
    Heavyweight boxing will always have the perception of being weak untill a crop of top Americans emerge.
    That is true for most Americans but not me. I love David Haye and Lennox Lewis. I'm not putting Haye on the same level as Lewis but he does have the goods. It just he hasn't fought very often over the years. I don't care where you're from. If you can fight you're the man in my eyes.

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    I think you can make a case for the 90's era being stronger or the 00's. And Mike Tyson would have always been a factor.

    All other eras prior would be completely decimated imo by the current generation.
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    Max let me say this again this era could beat most eras from the 60's back because most were not heavyweights. The 90's shits on this division it is by far the best era even with the 70's if not better. But yet again Foreman and Holmes competed in there fucking 40's with 90's guys and the best guy of the 00's could not beat a ageing Lewis so i don't think this era would destroy the 70's 80's and only people the 60's that be good enough to win are Liston and Ali thats about it. People underrate this time now but that doesnt mean you got to overrated it to balance it out. Shit i think people like Brock acutal think the Rock could hang now which is even worse he would of got his ass kicked. Saying that he was great for his time be a good cw now which is his weight class if not lhw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
    Max let me say this again this era could beat most eras from the 60's back because most were not heavyweights. The 90's shits on this division it is by far the best era even with the 70's if not better. But yet again Foreman and Holmes competed in there fucking 40's with 90's guys and the best guy of the 00's could not beat a ageing Lewis so i don't think this era would destroy the 70's 80's and only people the 60's that be good enough to win are Liston and Ali thats about it. People underrate this time now but that doesnt mean you got to overrated it to balance it out. Shit i think people like Brock acutal think the Rock could hang now which is even worse he would of got his ass kicked. Saying that he was great for his time be a good cw now which is his weight class if not lhw.
    You can't compare one era vs another. People are bigger and stronger today. Fighters today can beat 188 pound Rocky. With todays diet and training could they beat a 225 pound Rocky or a 235 pound Joe Louis.

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    When Lewis had his ass handed to him by Vitali, THAT was the start of the end for HW boxing... Lewis cleaned it up, but there were no more fights to be made.

    Wlad and Vitali just beat up on guys Lewis would mop the effing floor with. If Wlad, Vitali, took 5 rounds, Lewis would do it in 2.

    These guys ain't real. The realest dude out here is Arreola... followed by Pulev... and then Wilder and Tony Thompson right after.... and that's not saying it's all grande, either.
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    If you actually think about it HW boxing has been a bit hit and miss for some time, which probably says why the main american interest is on intermediate weights now. Quality heavyweights as follows, the rest are pub debates.
    Joe Louis (arguably the best)
    Rocky Marciano (argualbly the luckiest because all his contempories were over 40 years old)
    Cassius Clay
    Mike Tyson (until his hype bubble burst)
    Lennox Lewis
    Vitali Klitschko (may well have retired now, good luck to him after his featherbedded reign)
    Vladimir Klitschko (getting more silly but the results are there)

    The rest of the heavyweights for the last 60 years are just pub argument fodder, and long may the arguments continue! As a brit I still reckon our best chance was David Haye (in 50 years of watching our heavyweights), but we've now lost our bragging rights.

    Shame really, the middleweights are looking good though!

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    Mr140 I have to disagree with the whole thread really.

    What exactly is your criteria for saying this is a shit HW era?

    Because for a books worth of reasons this era is definitely better than virtually all others in any aspects like talent of the fighters involved or their h2h capabilities against them.

    The 70's was a really weak era, no doubt. At the time of Frazier vs Ali, the crowd BOOED Ali for a stinker of a fight! Now it's regarded as the FOTC! Ha!

    The 80's was considered a very weak era early on with Holmes, Witherspoon, Smith shining bright but nothing really special, Later that decade was boosted by Mike Tyson who saved it somewhat.

    Sure, the 90's was probably the best era but your perception of Vitali v s Lewis is way different than mine. Vitali did retire Lewis, and he went on to carry the flag for some further dominant and prominent beatdowns of dangerous 00's fighters.

    I feel the 00 era was of comparable calibre to the 90's, the only difference imo is that a lot of the fighters involved and the dominant forces in it were NOT American or even British.
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    I think the HW division of the last 10 years is severely underrated.

    But I think we're really heading into a horrible era... when the Klitschkos are gone, who the fuck is going to carry the torch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    When Lewis had his ass handed to him by Vitali, THAT was the start of the end for HW boxing... Lewis cleaned it up, but there were no more fights to be made.

    Wlad and Vitali just beat up on guys Lewis would mop the effing floor with. If Wlad, Vitali, took 5 rounds, Lewis would do it in 2.

    These guys ain't real. The realest dude out here is Arreola... followed by Pulev... and then Wilder and Tony Thompson right after.... and that's not saying it's all grande, either.
    Lewis didn't get his ass handed to him by Vitali.

    He fought a terrible sloppy fight n won.

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    Truthfully, I don't care, I'm not going to waste time dwelling on the past and bemoaning the present. I'm having trouble and fun keeping up with what's happening in boxing now.
    The focus is on the smaller weights, where all the action is and where it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    When Lewis had his ass handed to him by Vitali, THAT was the start of the end for HW boxing... Lewis cleaned it up, but there were no more fights to be made.

    Wlad and Vitali just beat up on guys Lewis would mop the effing floor with. If Wlad, Vitali, took 5 rounds, Lewis would do it in 2.

    These guys ain't real. The realest dude out here is Arreola... followed by Pulev... and then Wilder and Tony Thompson right after.... and that's not saying it's all grande, either.
    Lewis didn't get his ass handed to him by Vitali.

    He fought a terrible sloppy fight n won.
    Lewis didn't have a fight plan... and that's why he got his ass handed to him. He won, but took the worst end of it- a Pyrrhic victory!
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