Is this the worst era in HW boxing history?

[erics44]

its is absolutely the worst HW era that i have lived through because the main champion is allowed to fowl to the excessive levels that he does in every fight

The HW championship is so driven by money at the moment that it is all that counts and the importance of the fighting as entertainment comes a long long way behind, to the extreme that it doesnt matter

wlad makes lots of people very rich everytime he fights, as long as he wins these people dont care how he does it

[#1FightFan]

look at the HW champs last big fights, haye and ibragimov or whatever. simply pathetic!!!
sorry, but wlad sucks ass!!! chris arreola? garbage!! so yes, this era is terrible.

[brocktonblockbust]

i respect vitali, but those long telephone pole arms are what got him out of the way of shots. that is no talent of his own, that is just long arms, longer than anybody can penetrate thru. that is not a real all time great. you can go find a 7 foot 7 inch basketballer who can flail his arms and backpeddle and never get hit, and the other guy will die trying to hit him, then he can cautiously slowly pick him apart after the guy is ehxhausted,

that is ALL the klits are. ITS ALL ABOUT THEIR SIZE. PERIOD. AND THAT IS NOT TALENT. THAT IS JUST SIZE.

[erics44]

i respect vitali, but those long telephone pole arms are what got him out of the way of shots. that is no talent of his own, that is just long arms, longer than anybody can penetrate thru. that is not a real all time great. you can go find a 7 foot 7 inch basketballer who can flail his arms and backpeddle and never get hit, and the other guy will die trying to hit him, then he can cautiously slowly pick him apart after the guy is ehxhausted,

that is ALL the klits are. ITS ALL ABOUT THEIR SIZE. PERIOD. AND THAT IS NOT TALENT. THAT IS JUST SIZE.

i also respect vitali

with wlad its about the money he generates, he wouldnt still be champ if that wasnt the case

[Max Power]

i respect vitali, but those long telephone pole arms are what got him out of the way of shots. that is no talent of his own, that is just long arms, longer than anybody can penetrate thru. that is not a real all time great. you can go find a 7 foot 7 inch basketballer who can flail his arms and backpeddle and never get hit, and the other guy will die trying to hit him, then he can cautiously slowly pick him apart after the guy is ehxhausted,

that is ALL the klits are. ITS ALL ABOUT THEIR SIZE. PERIOD. AND THAT IS NOT TALENT. THAT IS JUST SIZE.

Seems like a fair argument and has merits... The Klits DO out-range most of their opponents both of them.

However just a moments thought on this reveals that the Klitschko's are not alone at all here. Lennox Lewis, faced I think only 2 ppl taller than himself!!! Larry Holmes was an outranger and was seriously challenged and some would say gifted when he was not outranging, Muhammad Ali faced only a couple of non-bummy opponents who were taller than himself also Foreman being the most famous and dangerous). So if you use that argument then you must use it against them also.

Further, the records show that very tall boxers historicall did not perform so well, only recently have they come to the fore. So there must be some other reason why the Klitschko's have been so successful apart from their height given the fact only few were before... Quality! Lennox had it too. And the Klits are only 6'6 and 6'7, only 1 and 2 inches taller than Lewis!!

The boxer and boxer-puncher style is usually heavily dependent on height. Vitali is also an exceptional counterpuncher and an expert judge of distance.

[Max Power]

look at the HW champs last big fights, haye and ibragimov or whatever. simply pathetic!!!
sorry, but wlad sucks ass!!! chris arreola? garbage!! so yes, this era is terrible.

This is probably my most important reply to this whole thread but tell me something.

Prior to the 90's, and excluding Mike Tyson, who from the past do you think could beat..

David Haye?

Sultan Ibragimov?

Chris Arreola?

The first choices that come to mind are LArry Holmes, George Foreman and Muhammad Ali as best possible candidates.

Haye- I think he could have some danger against Georges power given the weak chin BUT Haye moves so well and so fast and hits so sharp that I think he would box rings around George. I think Haye takes George the distance or young George might gas out and get KO'd late most likely for me. I think he would outbox/outpunch Holmes and KO Ali who did not have the punch to trouble him.

Sultan Ibragimov- Again I see Foreman being the most dangerous of the 3 but that's via punchers chance. Sultan is not slick like Haye but is much tougher, this guy stood up to and punched the shit out of giant Lance Whitaker as if he were a piece of shit! Never have the 3 faced a southpaw as cunning and tough as Ibragimov. I would tip Ibragimov.

And Arreola- I think he KO's all 3, regarding the older (smarter) Foreman I think he would cruise to a UD. A guy the height of Foreman, with a 10lb (fair) advantage, but instead of unco slogs left and right, fast and relentless combinations also with crushing power and the stamina to go 12 like young George never had. Yeah that guy is nothing! lol

You get the picture, what's your take?

Want to put them in the 90's, fine. All 3 are equal to or better than most of the opponents of Lennox Lewis!!

To put in perspective.

Foreman lost to Ali and Young, light side HW's by todays standards with no punch and no chin tested against superHW punchers. Why? Trouble with movement, he couldn't box. Haye, Ibragimov both move too well, Arreola like Lyle on steroids for George.

Ali lost to Frazier and Norton, easy KO's in the modern era for any of the 3, no way in any universe would any of them lose to cruiser bum Spinks.

Holmes lost to fucking Michael Spinks! 2ce! Enough said!

[Max Power]

its is absolutely the worst HW era that i have lived through because the main champion is allowed to fowl to the excessive levels that he does in every fight

The HW championship is so driven by money at the moment that it is all that counts and the importance of the fighting as entertainment comes a long long way behind, to the extreme that it doesnt matter

wlad makes lots of people very rich everytime he fights, as long as he wins these people dont care how he does it

An opinion that I somewhat share in part and a completely valid argument!!