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    Default Re: Is this the worst era in HW boxing history?

    Ok so you don't excuse a lose on Holyfeild when he is 46 years old but make all excuse for Wlad for his loses. Ali i doubt would be gassed and caught like Wald was he would ud the Journeyman and for Sanders what big win does he really have besides Wald. Ali could beat Wald on cuts his reach is close to Walds if you ever look it up. I am not saying for sure he wins but man you overrate this time worse then any Historian rates the older generations i mean always good now but bad if the other eras do it. You say people overrate the past and while you do the same fucking thing its very hypocritical.

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    All of your points have been address so may times except your fresh view here..

    "Ali could beat Wladimir on cuts"

    Ha. For a start, Ali's calculated reach might be an inch shorter than Wlad's but Wlad's stance, style and height all play factors too in range. Wladimir out- ranges Ali by a great deal. And Wladimir is very fast, probably about as fast as any boxer has been or could get for a man his size. I can't see Ali winning many exchanges mate.

    And when Wlad hits Ali's brains will be scrambled. Never in his entire caeer was he ever hit with so much concussive force.

    Further, Wladimir has among the best reflexes at HW. Muhammad was a notorious punch bag who could not evade a punch if it sent him a postcard.

    ExAMPLES... Joe Frazier was target practice, he walked into punches. Muhammad could not hurt him. Frazier was about as 1 dimensional as you can get. Walk forward left hook and slow and short. Yet landed on Ali continuously. Imagine what Wlad would do?

    It's interesting you bring up Corrie Sanders because at 6'4", lightening fast (faster than Ali), cracker power, highly aggressive style (like Foreman), 225lbs (heavier than the heaviest non-bummy opponent Ali ever fought (who was Alvin, a nobody anyway) and awkward southpaw style who are harder to fight, there isn't anybody similar to Corrie's qualities in ANY era!! And certainly Ali never faced a southpaw with as high a KO ratio as Corrie Sanders.

    Look how Ali sgruggled with Frazier, imagine how he'd go against Brewster, a 20lbs heavier, few inches taller, supercharged power punching version with an iron chin?

    Forget Wladimir man, Ali would be knocked out easily by either Brewster or Sanders! No doubt!

    I think that if there's a fight Muhammad would win it would be against Puritty but by UD, not on cuts or any form of TKO.

    Puritty is a shit boxer and no I doubt Ali would gas like Wlad because one of the drawbacks of being taller and HAVING BIG MUSCLES Like wlad is that if you don't pace, you will gas easier than a pissy weakling like Ali because they burn their fuel at a much higher rate. Young Wlad must wear that one I agree!!
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    To be fair, Correy was fast - one punch at a time (as well as being pretty stationary on his feet) and was in moderate condition as a fighter.

    I'd have him reasonably evenly matched with Chris Byrd. Maybe Chris sneaking a win more times than not.
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    Just know this. With todays diet and training Ali would be 240+ pounds. He would pack a much harder punch. He had the skill to handle anything Wlad could throw at him. Also Ali prime years were 1964-1967.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbig1 View Post
    Just know this. With todays diet and training Ali would be 240+ pounds. He would pack a much harder punch. He had the skill to handle anything Wlad could throw at him. Also Ali prime years were 1964-1967.
    i hate when people say this because it just proves his point right. ali would beat the HWs now even with his same weight and training that he had in the 60's and 70's. he was just better by a huge margin.

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    yes it is the worst. the champ wlad klit is a big ole pussy who fights like he is scared to let loose big punches, and is content to plod around throwing jabs for the full fight, carrying bum after bum. and its the worst because a glorified journeyman like arreola gets big fights and attention. TERRIBLE!!!

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    Power puncher and 1# fight fan are 100% right. I agree with both post. In Wlad last fight I didn't hold that much on my wedding night. It was hard to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    All of your points have been address so may times except your fresh view here..

    "Ali could beat Wladimir on cuts"

    Ha. For a start, Ali's calculated reach might be an inch shorter than Wlad's but Wlad's stance, style and height all play factors too in range. Wladimir out- ranges Ali by a great deal. And Wladimir is very fast, probably about as fast as any boxer has been or could get for a man his size. I can't see Ali winning many exchanges mate.

    And when Wlad hits Ali's brains will be scrambled. Never in his entire caeer was he ever hit with so much concussive force.

    Further, Wladimir has among the best reflexes at HW. Muhammad was a notorious punch bag who could not evade a punch if it sent him a postcard.

    ExAMPLES... Joe Frazier was target practice, he walked into punches. Muhammad could not hurt him. Frazier was about as 1 dimensional as you can get. Walk forward left hook and slow and short. Yet landed on Ali continuously. Imagine what Wlad would do?

    It's interesting you bring up Corrie Sanders because at 6'4", lightening fast (faster than Ali), cracker power, highly aggressive style (like Foreman), 225lbs (heavier than the heaviest non-bummy opponent Ali ever fought (who was Alvin, a nobody anyway) and awkward southpaw style who are harder to fight, there isn't anybody similar to Corrie's qualities in ANY era!! And certainly Ali never faced a southpaw with as high a KO ratio as Corrie Sanders.

    Look how Ali sgruggled with Frazier, imagine how he'd go against Brewster, a 20lbs heavier, few inches taller, supercharged power punching version with an iron chin?

    Forget Wladimir man, Ali would be knocked out easily by either Brewster or Sanders! No doubt!

    I think that if there's a fight Muhammad would win it would be against Puritty but by UD, not on cuts or any form of TKO.

    Puritty is a shit boxer and no I doubt Ali would gas like Wlad because one of the drawbacks of being taller and HAVING BIG MUSCLES Like wlad is that if you don't pace, you will gas easier than a pissy weakling like Ali because they burn their fuel at a much higher rate. Young Wlad must wear that one I agree!!
    now corrie sanders is faster than ali. nice. who knew? i guess his nickname should have been corrie "lightning fast" sanders because everybody knew that he was such a speedster. and who knew that wlad had better reflexes than ali? this is all news to me. and i guess that brewster is better than frazier too even though brewster can hardly throw a punch before he tires out and almost allowed meehan to hold a title if it werent for a gift decision.

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