Quote Originally Posted by Mr140 View Post
Ali had a 61 percent knock out rate which is not bad still the only man to knock Foreman out. Also Ali was never Knocked out cold either not once in his career. Only stoppage was when he was 38 years old and it was a corner stoppage to Holmes and he was gone by then. Do i think Ali could knock out a gassed Wald yea do i think he could out box Tyson well buster did do i think he could out box Lewis Mercer did. Holyfeild is my favorite fighter and that fight would look like shit if it happened. I don't know why you think Ali would get blasted out when he never has before and fought for some time. People fighting today would be champ maybe in the 50s and back but the craft has gone down a lot in the heavyweights. Admek is in the top ten and he could not fucking cut it at lhw tell me the era is strong come on now.
See this is where you guys misinterpret the records. "61% KO ratio" is his old time standard record.

If you calculate his KO% against what we would today consider "Heavyweights" his KO ratio drops to a shocking 33%! That's bad. That's REAL bad. It tells us that Muhammad was in reality, a blown up cruiser like the ones we see today. If you want to view Ali's total record including those opponents then you have to include the total record of all of guys like David Haye as "HW" and you can then see the quality of Haye as a "HW fighter".

Further, Ali's fights featured not a single proper KO against any modern sized opponent. Show me an example where Wladimir has ever been dropped or hurt by a guy that weak? Never! They were all hulking modern HW's!!

Ali was basically KO'd by Henry friggin Cooper! As if Henry could ever drop Wlad even if he stood there with his hands by his side!

Wladimir's chin is greater than Ali's chin... Undisputable FACT! Because Wladimir's chin was tested against the power of the modern HW division. Ali's division was by comparision, punch weak! Frazier landed continuously on Ali for eample, the correct interpretation is not that Ali had great chin, Frazier had a weak punch! And it makes sense becuse Ali LOOKS chinnier than Wlad (as does Fraier), Frazier LOOKS punch weak (as does Ali). FOTC is in reality proof how limited both fighters really were!

Of course there's George Foreman, indeed a hard puncher and Muhammad survived the onslught there to get the drop on him. Well my friend, 2 things, Ali did not take a flush shot fro George on the chin virtually the whole fight, so judging his chin from this fight is something of a misnomer, he did have to attend hospital for his body injuries though. And as for George that was the most stupidly executed gameplan in all of boxing! Wladimir is a better and sharper boxer than George in every way and he wold never ever fight so ridiculous as that.

Wladimir would systematically break Muhammad down over several rounds, punishing every move he made until he was a charmed cobra who stands right in front of him, instinctively glued in spot, ready to be knocked out. He caught Chris Byrd for christ sake! In the Chagaev fight the bell went, Wlad dropped his hands early an he caught a full power shot from Chag on the chin and shook it off, Chagaev a fighter stronger than any opponent of Ali!

I'm not convinced Ali could handle Tomasz Adamek or even Jean Marc Mormeck personally.