American movies.

[Beanflicker]

Well Hollywood movies are just one facet of American filmmaking, you always have the independents and other smaller production companies where the majority of the more cutting edge cinema comes from. For almost as long as the Hollywood machine has been pumping out product, there have been American filmmakers who weren't part of that system putting out great shit.

As someone who watches a fuck load of movies from different countries, you really can't sum it up in a blanket statement. There's great shit and lousy shit coming from all countries.

[Kirkland Laing]

The people who go to watch movies in America are almost exclusively 18-30 so Hollywood makes movies that its audience want to see which means we get a preponderance of shit like Transformers 3.

If middle aged people went to the movies with the vast number of quality writers, actors and directors available we'd get huge numbers of quality movies. But the market doesn't want to watch quality, it wants to watch car chases and shit getting blown up so that's what we get.

Walrus, are you aware of things called torrents? Download a torrent program like utorrent and then go to the pirate bay website and download and watch these movies.

Un Prophete.
City of God.
The Lives of Others.
Mesrine 1 and 2.

For starters. They have subtitles so download vlc media player which makes it easy to play the subtitle files that come with them. Then imagine what Hollywood could do with all their money if they had a market for films like this.

[walrus]

we make a lot of R rated movies. Also, I've seen a number of movies you mentioned. I don't mind reading subtitles. I wasn't saying there are no good foreign films, the the majority of the to films are US productions. This is my opinion, not the final say, although again I refer to gone with the wind to name one.

[X]

slightly off topic here, but I think Hollywood has been going down a one way street for years now. Studio films are brainless big budget CGI action feasts aimed at 12 year old suburban boys.

The best 'film' output now is on TV .... Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, the West Wing etc. that's why all the big big serious actors are on TV now as opposed to 20 years ago when they used to sneer at it.

Back on subject, America has made some great movies, but not more than other places really (in terms of percentage of total output).

[Beanz]

Hitchcock

Ken Loach

Mike Leigh

Ridley Scott

Sam Mendes

David Lean

Dickie Attenborough

Alan Parker

Shane Meadows

Britain has it's own fair share of Genius directors with a Unique Vision

[walrus]

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Hitchcock

Ken Loach

Mike Leigh

Ridley Scott

Sam Mendes

David Lean

Dickie Attenborough

Alan Parker

Shane Meadows

Britain has it's own fair share of Genius directors with a Unique Vision

Hitchcock is undeniably genius.

[armin]

Well this thread went to shits seemingly thanks to some dude who seemingly doesn't realize that einstein and eisenstein are not the same people

[SugarBoxing]

visual wise US is the best

most of the rest, like Russia, just does not have balls enough and confidence to develop their own thingy

[Beanz]

visual wise US is the best

most of the rest, like Russia, just does not have balls enough and confidence to develop their own thingy

The most important contribution to the art of cinema is the use of the edit. Cutting,juxtaposition,narrative and the use of sound. None of this would be where it is today without Eisenstein, A Russian.

[SugarBoxing]

visual wise US is the best

most of the rest, like Russia, just does not have balls enough and confidence to develop their own thingy

The most important contribution to the art of cinema is the use of the edit. Cutting,juxtaposition,narrative and the use of sound. None of this would be where it is today without Eisenstein, A Russian.

Eisenstein, A JEW, who happened to be located in Russia at that time.
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[walrus]

visual wise US is the best

most of the rest, like Russia, just does not have balls enough and confidence to develop their own thingy

The most important contribution to the art of cinema is the use of the edit. Cutting,juxtaposition,narrative and the use of sound. None of this would be where it is today without Eisenstein, A Russian.

Eisenstein, A JEW, who happened to be located in Russia at that time.
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Why do you emphasize his Jewish heritage NV, I'm curious