Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
Ward has a very good shot at beating a prime Roy. Roy was talented, but go back and watch him against solid fighters who weren't intimidated and you will see he was not as dominant. Hop was green in their first fight, and once he got over the nerves he started winning rounds. It's why he always wanted a rematch with Roy, he knew he could beat him.

Roy was unorthodox and able to beat anyone because of his natural gifts, but to say that Ward, GGG, and even Stevenson couldn't beat him is crazy. Roy's most impressive wins were vs Hop, Toney, Griffith, Ruiz, and Tarver. Hop was green, Toney was lazy and inconsistent, Ruiz was a joke, and Roy struggled with Montell in the first fight n Tarver for all 3. Eric Harding have Roy trouble also, and he wasn't a great fighter.

I'm not a Roy hater, but Ward has the skill and speed combo to give Roy too much to handle, GGG has the punch and ability to take advantage of Roy's chin, and Stevenson is awkward and a big enough puncher to catch Roy. I think people would have a better idea of Roy's true greatness had he fought guys like Benn, Eubank, Darius M., Mclellan, Nunn, Liles...etc. He was an unbelievably talented fighter, but he wasn't as unbeatable as his fans try to portray.
So much non sense here i don't even know where to start. First off...Roy did not struggle with Montell...he got DQed in their first fight for some bs...and came back to destroy him in the rematch. Hop was green?! He was a champ when Roy fought him...and Jones beat him with ease with a broken hand. When he fought Toney...James was 46-0 and considered one of the very best pound 4 pound fighters in the game...Roy took care of him with ease. It has been clearly documented that the Roy Jones that fought Tarver was no longer a prime Roy (add to it the troubles he had with weight coming back down). He would have trouble with Stevenson and GGG??!!! Two fighters who have fought no one of worth to date. GGG is a linear fighter and Roy would have made him look slow as molasses. Stevenson?! A one dimensional puncher. Ward is similar to Hopkins in that he is a crafty fighter that likes to makes things ugly. Now Andre Ward is better than that version of Hopkins. But Roy's quickness and bizarre angles would limit Ward’s counter punching and inside fighting. He’d be forced to be a little more offensive and that’d play into Jones’ hands. Just way too much speed for Ward to deal with.

In conclusion...you ARE a Roy hater.