Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
As long as roids are the topic, do they not have an effect on back muscles? Guys in the 70s/80s had ripped up backs but most guys now their chest/abs/shoulders/bicepts are ripped up without near the muscle accross the back. What's that about?

Addendum-of course they could have been juicing like mad in the 70s/80s so maybe it's the exact opposite and it was more prevalent then we just didn't hear of it. In fact with the boom of top heavies in the 60s/early 70s it's quite likely steroids played a part but I digress
I'm sure they can target that area just like just about any other place. I'm sure juicing in one form or the other has been around almost as long as the sport or any other sport with similar demands at the highest level.

Remember the "red pill" survey. 95% or more answered yes when the were asked if they would take it. The question, "if you could become a famous athlete or break a world record and become famous but die ten years after would you take a little red pill?"

I dont think Tim is juicing. Nothing has changed about the guy since he broke out in the pros but he does puff up (water log) a lot in between fights. I'm a vegetarian and a good buddy of mine was a serious weight lifter who juiced and was a strict vegan otherwise. He used to puff up like Tim off cycle and bloat. If Tim is such a serious vegan like some are saying then I dont see him putting on the weight he does after fights. I'm skeptical of most pros at this level if not down right cynical. This is the same fighter prior to the Provo fight.





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