I think you have it backwards, pretty much everyone agrees that Roy was a special talent. The argument starts when fanboys try and rewrite history and say that wins over Lou De Valle, Virgil Hill, Tony Thornton, Glenn Kelley...etc. show that all time greats like Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore, Michael Spinks, and Bob Foster wouldn't stand a chance. Additionally, you lose credibility when you say Roy's competition at 175 was solid and he made them look bad. He fought guys who were part time cops, garbage men...etc. or way past their prime types like Mcallum and Hill.

I will say that Roy had the gifts to give anyone in history problems and score some major wins, but the guy stopped pushing for greatness after Toney and should be the underdog vs true all time greats.