Tyson makes a remark about Wilder.. WIlder fires back... James Toney backs Tyson

[FinitoElDinamita]

Mike may have accomplished so much more at an early age but he also had more amatuer experience than WIlder did..

You look at Mike's ESPN highlights and youll see a bunch of long haired whiteboys and hippies we've never heard of..

Wilder has been talking alot lately though on fighthype.. This dude is acting like he scored an upset over Scott.. He says everybody expected him to lose to Scott but he proved them wrong..lol okayyyyyyy nobody fuckin gave Scott a chance so wtf is he talking about.

[X]

I think Tyson has earned the right to make any comments or thoughts about current fighters.

[ykdadamaja]

I think Tyson has earned the right to make any comments or thoughts about current fighters.

I agree with Tyson.

[bradlee180]

There is a chin problem with Wilder.
2 short clips below, only about 1 minute each, worth a look.

Wilder turned pro Nov 2008 at 23 years old.
Here he is 9 months earlier, Feb 2008, as a 22 year old Amateur getting knocked around and down by Evgenyi Romanov (born in 1985 same as Wilder.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpWqvX3_PW4



David Haye sparring Wilder in 2013. Haye was rocking him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7tzdZvOWkY

Quite easy to see the liability and susceptibility in this fighter.
Bur hey, Wladimir had some chin issues until Stewart joined him in 2004 and gradually worked out the kinks in his style, developed him, helped him learn to protect the vulnerable chin.

[beenKOed]

I think Tyson has earned the right to make any comments or thoughts about current fighters.

I agree with Tyson.

I think Tyson has the right to say anything he wants, also. I also think he should show some class, unlike the rest of us. LOL He is a promoter, businessman and hopefully a mentor who should be trying to project a positive image along with some good advice.
He had a great chance to do a lot of good when he was younger and for whatever reasons it didn't work out. I hope he doesn't let a second chance slip through his fingers. I'm hopeful this squabble, if there is one, is a one time thing.
Mike Tyson an honest, truthful promoter and businessman. Yeah!!
Mike Tyson a hot tempered, loud mouthed, headhunting promoter and businessman. Hell no!!

[Hulk]

Mike may have accomplished so much more at an early age but he also had more amatuer experience than WIlder did..

You look at Mike's ESPN highlights and youll see a bunch of long haired whiteboys and hippies we've never heard of..

Wilder has been talking alot lately though on fighthype.. This dude is acting like he scored an upset over Scott.. He says everybody expected him to lose to Scott but he proved them wrong..lol okayyyyyyy nobody fuckin gave Scott a chance so wtf is he talking about.

I gave Scott a chance and thought he could test Wilder.

However, by no means was I expecting Scott to win or dominate.

Tyson can say whatever he pleases, he always has.

[bradlee180]

Tyson only said what any Boxing fan that knows $#!t from shinola is wondering about wilder...

This guy hasn't fought a live one yet...

[Spicoli]

Mikes one hundred percent correct, also think he's right about Jennings being more exciting. The only thing Wilder should be saying is "thank you sir".

[FinitoElDinamita]

Mikes one hundred percent correct, also think he's right about Jennings being more exciting. The only thing Wilder should be saying is "thank you sir".

True but that 3vtear old comment was unnecessary, no? Mike was taking jabs at him..

As an immature young fighter, I can see why wilder got a bit offended.. after all, he's still learning on thejob and dude is working hard..

[Master]

Mikes one hundred percent correct, also think he's right about Jennings being more exciting. The only thing Wilder should be saying is "thank you sir".

True but that 3vtear old comment was unnecessary, no? Mike was taking jabs at him..

As an immature young fighter, I can see why wilder got a bit offended.. after all, he's still learning on thejob and dude is working hard..

Working hard but going no where.

I always thought Tyson and Toney did not get on?

[FinitoElDinamita]

Mikes one hundred percent correct, also think he's right about Jennings being more exciting. The only thing Wilder should be saying is "thank you sir".

True but that 3vtear old comment was unnecessary, no? Mike was taking jabs at him..

As an immature young fighter, I can see why wilder got a bit offended.. after all, he's still learning on thejob and dude is working hard..

Working hard but going no where.

I always thought Tyson and Toney did not get on?

Its too early to say that and besides, Gbp has total control over his career cuz theyve been building him from ground up.. wilder has no say right now..

He wants to fight the winner of arreola-stiverne and jennings-perez so we have to wait and see if he's serious..

03 Toney beats Mike the quitter..

[J_Undisputed]

Mike fought a lot of guys earlier that may not have been world beaters, but when he fought guys at the ranked level and championship level, he was doing the same things he was doing to the lesser guys in the beginning. Mike was at a height and reach disadvantage for most of the guys he fought. He countered that with skill, speed and training. He wasn't winking, fixing his hair in the camera and giving shout outs before the opening bell because he had physical advantages over most of his opponents that allowed him to go out there and potshot guys with one-twos. He executed in the ring and then talked the garbage after the work was done. Wilder could have made a fight with a quality opponent and outclassed the guy on the way to a brutal knockout and tried to do it in a shorter time than mike with a similar caliber opponent and said something after. Instead he's squeaking from obscurity at the youngest heavyweight champ in history.

It's just another sign that Wilder is just another guy looking to cash in. He's not even proved himself yet but he's got his own promotional banner? He's looking to cash in then skip out to an early retirement and make money off the backs of other fighters. Tyson's been through just about everything there is to go through in boxing and saw every side of the business. I hate to say it but I expected a much more tragic ending for him long before now considering the road he was headed down. He's still around and speaking from a position of experience.

[Spicoli]

Mikes one hundred percent correct, also think he's right about Jennings being more exciting. The only thing Wilder should be saying is "thank you sir".

True but that 3vtear old comment was unnecessary, no? Mike was taking jabs at him..

As an immature young fighter, I can see why wilder got a bit offended.. after all, he's still learning on thejob and dude is working hard..

Yeh but it's probably the biggest shot he's taken from a respected heavyweight Mikes always wearing in on the sleeve and really Wilder needs to hear it. You can expect detractors and doubters in the fans but Wilder should take stock in the underlying perspective. It's ironic coming from a guy who also knocked over a truck load of guys in quickies coming up but Mikes saying until you've faced fire and taken a punch it could just as easily say everything about the level your people feel your really at as it does your protected puffed up ko power.

I really feel more and more the powers in charge are trying to walk the china shop through the bull herd with Wilder. I don't see him learning or working a whole lot all that much and it's going to catch up badly when his punch is actually slipped and he doesn't know how to get outta the way.

[ross]

Mikes one hundred percent correct, also think he's right about Jennings being more exciting. The only thing Wilder should be saying is "thank you sir".

True but that 3vtear old comment was unnecessary, no? Mike was taking jabs at him..

As an immature young fighter, I can see why wilder got a bit offended.. after all, he's still learning on thejob and dude is working hard..

Yeh but it's probably the biggest shot he's taken from a respected heavyweight Mikes always wearing in on the sleeve and really Wilder needs to hear it. You can expect detractors and doubters in the fans but Wilder should take stock in the underlying perspective. It's ironic coming from a guy who also knocked over a truck load of guys in quickies coming up but Mikes saying until you've faced fire and taken a punch it could just as easily say everything about the level your people feel your really at as it does your protected puffed up ko power.

I really feel more and more the powers in charge are trying to walk the china shop through the bull herd with Wilder. I don't see him learning or working a whole lot all that much and it's going to catch up badly when his punch is actually slipped and he doesn't know how to get outta the way.

Bullshit! Utter bullshit!

Mike won the WBC title within 2 years or turning pro!

The level of fighter that Wlder is stagnating on 6 years in to his pro career is the level of fighter Mike was facing within his first year! Jesse Ferguson beats everyone that Wilder has faced.....

At the same point in Mikes career, 6 years in, he had beaten 3 seperate defending belt holders and had defended all the unified titles 6 successfull times (something no other fighter from any division has done).

Mike can say what the fuck he wants. Hes on everyones greatest list, no matter where, hes there.

[beenKOed]

Mike may have accomplished so much more at an early age but he also had more amatuer experience than WIlder did..

You look at Mike's ESPN highlights and youll see a bunch of long haired whiteboys and hippies we've never heard of..

Wilder has been talking alot lately though on fighthype.. This dude is acting like he scored an upset over Scott.. He says everybody expected him to lose to Scott but he proved them wrong..lol okayyyyyyy nobody fuckin gave Scott a chance so wtf is he talking about.

Go back and check that thread, a lot of fans have Scott a chance. Some gave him more than an even chance is the way I remember it.