John L Sullivan vs Vitali Klitschko

[Max Power]

Nobody Inuit.

I thought I would follow the logical conclusion of what some of the guys around here are getting at, that the weaker and more rudimentary boxers get the further back in time the more formidable they were. So I took the liberty of taking the next logical step and concluded that JLS must have been the greatest of all time.

I live in Australia remember, we have Aussie rules footy over here right. Do you suppose we watch the latest matches on telly and support the current sides? Of course. We pay respects to teams and players past to be sure but we don't routinely watch 1950's footy matches and make outrageous claims like that one could beat the current Essendon footy team do we!

One of those teams eats oranges at half time and has a 6 pack and the other has a beer gut and smokes a fucking cigarette at half time.

I hope you get the connection and the point was conveyed with this joke thread.

[Master]

You say joke thread I say dumb thread.

[brocktonblockbust]

JLS would pulverize Klit with feints and fists uncovered. One bone-jarring shot on Klit and the Ukie would fold. Older may have been less skilled but they were WAY tougher.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Id say Sullivan-Kimbo Slice in a bare knuckle is an even matchup..

[Max Power]

Yeah because Klits grew up wrapped in cotton wool didn't they, they were always the children getting hurt and never liked contact sports did they. That's why they began careers In boxing to start with isn't it.

The world has not become more pussy overall it has become even more violent than ever before. The difference now is that is has become illegal to kill and hurt ppl but that doesn't stop ppl who will do it anyway.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Yeah because Klits grew up wrapped in cotton wool didn't they, they were always the children getting hurt and never liked contact sports did they. That's why they began careers In boxing to start with isn't it.

The world has not become more pussy overall it has become even more violent than ever before. The difference now is that is has become illegal to kill and hurt ppl but that doesn't stop ppl who will do it anyway.

I heard that when Vitali was young, the Russian mob wanted to scout him as an enforcer but he respectfully refused...

You are right, it's not as if he had a pampered childhood. These guys are from Ukraine FFS...

Sullivan would get beat to death ..

[Master]

I think in a bare knuckle fight over 100 rounds I doubt Vital I would even dare get in the ring with Sullivan. His brother wlad would wet himself.

[X]

Wlad would undoubtedly beat the Boston Strong Boy in a boxing ring, but I'm not sure he would in a bar fight after a pint of brandy.

[Max Power]

I think in a bare knuckle fight over 100 rounds I doubt Vital I would even dare get in the ring with Sullivan. His brother wlad would wet himself.

All I got to say to that is that to be in the sport of boxing usually requires one to be somewhat of a fighter in the first place.

If you think what can be done in a boxing doesn't translate fairly closely to what might be accomplished on the streets, especially at HW, then I think you are mistaken. The ring is a sport sure but it is still a fight and I'm pretty sure Vitali Klitschko could beat Sullivan regardless of lack of rules barehanded.

Even more wussier Wladimir I could not imagine being thrashed by a guy like that, I mean seriously, some of you guys will find any avenue to have the old timer come up trumps.

It's some code of respect thing I see but I don't think that's a good way to properly honour a past athlete, by rubbishing the present. Whatever you say though!

100 rounder you say? A "round" back then was a KD was it not? I would judge then that a fight between a Klit and Sullivan would not go nearly 100 rounds.