Is there anybody who thinks Pacquiao wasn't using PEDs?

[TitoFan]

Typical script.

Haters will hate.... fans will deny, and deflect hate toward Floyd, the other protagonist in this movie.

I like Pacquiao as a person, and for his accomplishments inside the ring. He's humble, not a chest-pounding illiterate bitch like a Margarito. He's faced the best of the best, and has had to earn everything he's got, unlike the coddled silver-spoon-fed Chavez Jr. There was no famous Manuel Pacquiao Sr., blazing a trail before him, and putting boxing federation presidents in his back pocket. He has losses in his record, even the spectacular KO by JMM, another fighter I like very much, for being a classy guy, like Pacquiao. So having losses, he doesn't have to protect his damn "0", like the coddled Ginger (until he got humiliated by Floyd). He's become a recognizable name in boxing, even delving into politics, and with the utmost respect of his people.

But are there reasonable doubts surrounding Pac's possible use of PED's? Yes. His rise through the weights is unprecendented (with that degree of success). He retained his power several weight divisions above his own. He did refuse to open and random testing. He could've put all those suspicions to bed had he really wanted to. But he didn't.

So why not see things for what they are, instead of injecting blind love or hate into every issue?

[Beanz]

It is true that a huge question mark hangs over Pacquiao and the PED issue but that same issue hangs over all of boxing. Floyd has no reason not to use anything he can use undetected and that is why his words sound hollow, particularly considering his own Vegas ankle chain hang up.

[IamInuit]

It is true that a huge question mark hangs over Pacquiao and the PED issue but that same issue hangs over all of boxing. Floyd has no reason not to use anything he can use undetected and that is why his words sound hollow, particularly considering his own Vegas ankle chain hang up.

Good post. Everybody is the sport could be looked at with a cynical lens I agree but in Manny's case there are some real differences in the result of his metamorphism.

Nobody in 150 years with some eras being brutal ever came close to doing what Manny has done. Not Fitzy, Armstrong, Carpentier, Robinson, Floyd or any other atg. Not even close. Nobody in 150 years has ever had their power, speed and reflexes increase exponentially like it did with Manny. Highly suspect if one thinks about it or maybe his peds were simply better. He didn't just beat guys moving up, he destroyed them and elite guys. To me the reasoning is both inductive and deductive. Either way I seem to arrive at the same conclusion. No way in hell did he fight clean.

[Silkeyjoe]

No one knows. Most likely yes. As is the case for most professional athletes. Testers technology is behind the cheats which is why they are not caughts as often. The other problem is the money needed to do the tests. I heard an interesting fact regarding athletics in Germany. For every athlete to be tested the recomended amount of times per year would cost 76 million. 4 million is invested in this.

[Dean Duke]

probably but not proven, what about Bhop, Floyd, Joe C, Wlad and many others back in the day, they could of been taking all sorts of shit, I mean five ten rounders in six weeks who you kidding every ones at it, be it pain killing jabs before a fight, weight loss pills, extra red blood cells more oxygen carried round the body, the list is endless its all cheating, you just have to be a mug to get caught these dayz.