Chris Eubank says fighting prime Roy Jones or James Toney would have been suicide

[Mark TKO]

Have heard Eubank say something similar before - openly admits it.

Benn wouldn't have ducked anyone.

I think Benn would have had a better chance v Jones than Eubank. Have to be honest I can't remember anything about Toney's career at Super Middle ?!?

Time to check boxrec.........

You must remember the Johnathan Ross show where Toney and Micky Rourke were taking the piss out of Chris and Benn.

yes thats all remember of him at that weight though !

[Mark TKO]

oh and he kayoed Nunn didnt he - that might have been middleweight ?

[Beanflicker]

Yeah that was at middleweight, whipped Nunn in his own home town in Iowa.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h227sP9Gc-I

James was amazing

[FinitoElDinamita]

Yeah that was at middleweight, whipped Nunn in his own home town in Iowa.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h227sP9Gc-I

James was amazing

Huge mistake on Nunn's part. He wanted to impress his crowd so he stayed in the pockets too long instead of using his legs. He could have easily won a decision had he boxed more..

[Master]

Yeah that was at middleweight, whipped Nunn in his own home town in Iowa.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h227sP9Gc-I

James was amazing

Huge mistake on Nunn's part. He wanted to impress his crowd so he stayed in the pockets too long instead of using his legs. He could have easily won a decision had he boxed more..

Brilliant fight from both undefeated and talented fighters.

[mikeeod]

160: Julian Jackson, G-Man were too guys Roy should've fought. Instead his best win was over a still green Hop n a blowout of contender Thomas Tate.

168: Benn, Eubank, Collins, Gracciano, Nunn, Liles were all threats who he missed. He had a great win over Toney, but the rest were guys like Thornton, Brannon, n Vinny Paz (yes, former 135 n 154 journeyman titlist).

175: missed Darius, his biggest threat n lineal champ. Griffith win was probably his best win. Other wins included del Valle, an ancient Mcallum, ancient Reggie Johnson (former 160 titlist), Glenn Kelley, ancient Virgil Hill, and a good win over Tarver who had to harass him to fight. Tarver stretched him I'm the rematch.

190: Vasilly Jirov, Oneil Bell, Mcormack, Braithwaite would've all loved to fight him for the payday. Roy never fought at 190 but would say he was going to to try n overcome the Roycott n sell out a quarter of an arena.

Heavy: beat the most limited titlist in Ruiz. To put the significance into perspective, an out of shape and fat James Toney beat Ruiz as well. Jones backed out of a fight with Douglas after his daddy told him to n never even signed to fight Tuson, Holy, Lewis... Etc despite saying he wanted to.

Now with all of those missed opportunities some is going to ask if Roy missed them, or they missed Roy. Roy ducked them. They can't make Roy get in the ring with them. Roy wanted nothing to do with top competition after the Toney fight until he started getting beat by everyone. Then he would jump in n get his head handed to him.

[Master]

160: Julian Jackson, G-Man were too guys Roy should've fought. Instead his best win was over a still green Hop n a blowout of contender Thomas Tate.

168: Benn, Eubank, Collins, Gracciano, Nunn, Liles were all threats who he missed. He had a great win over Toney, but the rest were guys like Thornton, Brannon, n Vinny Paz (yes, former 135 n 154 journeyman titlist).

175: missed Darius, his biggest threat n lineal champ. Griffith win was probably his best win. Other wins included del Valle, an ancient Mcallum, ancient Reggie Johnson (former 160 titlist), Glenn Kelley, ancient Virgil Hill, and a good win over Tarver who had to harass him to fight. Tarver stretched him I'm the rematch.

190: Vasilly Jirov, Oneil Bell, Mcormack, Braithwaite would've all loved to fight him for the payday. Roy never fought at 190 but would say he was going to to try n overcome the Roycott n sell out a quarter of an arena.

Heavy: beat the most limited titlist in Ruiz. To put the significance into perspective, an out of shape and fat James Toney beat Ruiz as well. Jones backed out of a fight with Douglas after his daddy told him to n never even signed to fight Tuson, Holy, Lewis... Etc despite saying he wanted to.

Now with all of those missed opportunities some is going to ask if Roy missed them, or they missed Roy. Roy ducked them. They can't make Roy get in the ring with them. Roy wanted nothing to do with top competition after the Toney fight until he started getting beat by everyone. Then he would jump in n get his head handed to him.

That is hyper critical of Roy.

I am sure G Man was not champion when Roy was around at middleweight.

Beating Toney is better than all those other fighters.

Dariuz was a threat but Roy was the man so he had to come to him.

Roy never fought at cruiser weight in his prime.

Roy beating Ruiz was great for any fighter coming from such low weights.

[Beanflicker]

Now with all of those missed opportunities some is going to ask if Roy missed them, or they missed Roy. Roy ducked them. They can't make Roy get in the ring with them. Roy wanted nothing to do with top competition after the Toney fight until he started getting beat by everyone. Then he would jump in n get his head handed to him.

Same old bullshit. Yawn.

[Beanflicker]

Yeah Nunn won pretty much every round then BOOOM that left hook from hell. That was some Frazier/Ali 15th round shit.

[Mr140]

Dm was the Leinel champ at 175 so Jones should of fought the guy no excuse for that one. So Dm lost go Julio and he was 35 and if was sd i mean at that age Jones got koed by Taver and was done with his prime by then. That fight i feel should happened he should of fought Dm he was the champ at 175.

[IamInuit]

From a 2012 interview

Who was the best fighter you ever fought?

By far, Michael Watson in our second fight

Is it true that you wanted nothing to do with the Michael Nunn & James Toney?

Thats interesting, because I signed to fight both Nunn and James Toney. As part of the contract with Don King for Nunn, where I was the first fighter to get one over on him when me and Nigel drew. And as part of the contract with SKY for James Toney, where I was the first fighter to sign for a TV company direct, but he lost to Roy Jones.

Did Roy Jones Jr duck you?

It was never mandated. But I asked Roy Jones about 10 or 12 years ago if he'd said back in 93 that the one fighter he thought would give him problems and had reservations of taking on was me. He told me yes that was true

Did you take on all the toughest challenges in your career in your opinion?

“As world champion, what you want to avoid is a southpaw who is 6ft or more and unbeaten or been world champion. Rocchigiani and Calzaghe were fights that no other fighter would take. I took them, even though they weren’t even mandated.

“Not even Roy Jones, rated as the best pound-for-pound fighter in history by some writers, would take that fight even when it was mandated to.”
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Personally I have always thought that Chris would have been Roys toughest fight.
I also believe that Chris would have kicked the living shit out of James legend it his own mind wind bag Toney. Quite possibly the most overrated fighter in history.

[Beanflicker]

Quite possibly the most overrated fighter in history.

How anyone could watch prime James and come to that conclusion is beyond me. One of the most underrated guys ever.

[IamInuit]

Quite possibly the most overrated fighter in history.

How anyone could watch prime James and come to that conclusion is beyond me. One of the most underrated guys ever.

I have never seen this prime James Toney. When was that and who was that against? Sorry but a little shoulder roll off the ropes and ducking a punch from a no hoper is not greatness. Who did he beat? He managed a win over the body snatcher and Jirov at cruiser. He's probably the reason they moved the yard stick north. He's a blowhard who never accomplished squat and I'll say it again, one of the most overrated underachieving wind bags ever. I'd like to know who this James Toney is everyone keeps yacking on about year in and year out. The guy should be on the show "Urban Legends"