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    Default Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.

    Who shits on Leonard? He clearly was the #1 guy in that era.

    People can make all the excuses they want for why Leonard won those fights, but in the end he knocked out Tommy Hearns, knocked out Benitez, made one of the toughest guys in boxing history quit, and came back from a 3 year layoff and, without even a tune-up fight, challenged and beat one of the greatest and most destructive middleweight champs in the history of boxing.

    Leonard is boxing royalty and always will be.

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    Default Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.

    Leonard did not "beat Hearns twice". His official record against Tommy is 1-0-1.

    Treating it as 1-1 is justified imo. To be fair, putting more weight on the first fight, since they were both in their prime, is also justified.

    But treating their rivalry as 2-0 for Leonard is not.

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    Default Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.

    Although your a bit a numb nuts ydksfdklfld or whatever your name is...

    I think I like your logic on this one!!
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    Default Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manju View Post
    Leonard did not "beat Hearns twice". His official record against Tommy is 1-0-1.

    Treating it as 1-1 is justified imo. To be fair, putting more weight on the first fight, since they were both in their prime, is also justified.

    But treating their rivalry as 2-0 for Leonard is not.
    Yes, Hearns won that second fight and even Ray admitted that then and still does as of recent. And to be official...Ray beat Duran a second time later in their careers. So he is 2-1 against Duran. Hearns was a match up hell for him which is evident in both fights.

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    Default Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by jehoshaphat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Manju View Post
    Leonard did not "beat Hearns twice". His official record against Tommy is 1-0-1.

    Treating it as 1-1 is justified imo. To be fair, putting more weight on the first fight, since they were both in their prime, is also justified.

    But treating their rivalry as 2-0 for Leonard is not.
    Yes, Hearns won that second fight and even Ray admitted that then and still does as of recent. And to be official...Ray beat Duran a second time later in their careers. So he is 2-1 against Duran. Hearns was a match up hell for him which is evident in both fights.
    I changed that too. And makes it seem even more weird to have Duran ahead of Hagler and Hearns.
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    Default Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.

    As champions of their best weight
    Duran
    Hagler
    Leonard
    Hearns
    Benitez

    P4P
    Duran
    Hearns
    Leonard
    Hagler
    Benitez

    My favourite
    Hearns
    Hagler
    Duran
    Benitez
    Leonard
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    Default Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manju View Post
    Leonard did not "beat Hearns twice". His official record against Tommy is 1-0-1.

    Treating it as 1-1 is justified imo. To be fair, putting more weight on the first fight, since they were both in their prime, is also justified.

    But treating their rivalry as 2-0 for Leonard is not.
    Agreed, Hearns won the 2nd fight and got robbed.

    But like you alluded to, the first fight is the important one and Leonard came out on top.

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    Default Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.

    1. Leonard
    2. Hagler
    3. Hearns
    4. Duran

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    Default Re: Benitez/Duran/Hagler/Hearns/Leonard- let's sort it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manju View Post
    Leonard did not "beat Hearns twice". His official record against Tommy is 1-0-1.

    Treating it as 1-1 is justified imo. To be fair, putting more weight on the first fight, since they were both in their prime, is also justified.

    But treating their rivalry as 2-0 for Leonard is not.
    I changed it. But I did have Leonard winning the fight.
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