Thanks for your replys well in my opinion I never seen anyone fight like that in a boxing ring in my 27 years of been on this planet...I got the career set yesterday in the post and watched the hall fight first only cos i seen the knockdown on tv...But WOW there was a lot more then that his speed fast hands...I just hope now that the rest of his fights on the other dvd are even 25% as good....Dont think i will bother even watching the Tarver fight cos looked to be boring highlights i have seen off it before.....