Roy Jones
Roy Jones
Ezzard Charles, gene Tunney. Hagler. He is far from unbeatable. Billy Conn. Archie Moore. Bob Foster.
Some good choices there. Roy's probably my favourite post ww2 fighter all time but if I can shelf my bias I think there are several also and at 160 he never really stayed long enough. Had he peaked at that weight sure but he didn't.
160
Greb
Burley
Langford
Steele
Benton
Williams
Watson
168
Cal
Langford
Eubank
Benn
Liles
175
Langford
Charles
Spinks
Moore
Loughran
Lol. Oh gawwwwd.
The question is who could not who would and for some of you that started watching the sport in the 1990's that's probably a hard concept to grasp and frankly I dont give a shit. Some of you are infatuated with crucifying previous eras and fighters on a daily basis. Gets tiresome. Sam Langford is in the minds of many historians the greatest light-heavyweight that ever lived and yet seemingly dismissed out of hand by some. As much as many of these fellas may not have seen a Roy Jones, it is also true that Roy Jones never saw anyone like them.
I hear you but you know what, don't put me in the 90s bracket because I got into boxing before that.
I got into Boxing in the late 80s when I was around 8 years old. When other kids my age were into Teenaged mutant ninja turtles and GI Joe, I was into the sweet science.
I was already deep into the game by the 90s and that's when I went back and studied all the fighters from the golden era. I did my history lesson long time ago my friend and I stand by my belief about these old school fighters.
I think if we exchange boxing with porn, your monologue would sound almost like naked bare truth about yourself.
"I hear you but you know what, don't put me in the 90s bracket because I got into porn before that.
I got into Porn in the late 80s when I was around 8 years old. When other kids my age were into Teenaged mutant ninja turtles and GI Joe, I was into the porn.
I was already deep into the Porn by the 90s and that's when I went back and studied all the porn stars from the golden era. I did my history lesson long time ago my friend and I stand by my belief about these old school porn stars."
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Nobody is forgetting a thing. The question is could. There's a reason for the expression "anything can happen in boxing". We're just looking at who had better chances than others. Roy is the most gifted boxer I've ever seen, doesn't mean he couldn't be beat.
Andre Ward would beat Roy, but only if Roy would fight him. Roy looks like an ATG vs the no hopers he fought for the majority of his career. He had the talent to beat anyone, but never proved himself by taking on the biggest challenges. Roy has about the weakest resume of guys he is often compared to. It's great that u studied boxing when u were 8 and all, but to say that beating guys like Glenn Kelly and Tony Thornton prove Roy would Dominate Spinks, Foster, Moore, Conn...etc., is laughable. Roy was a phenom, no doubt. Every truly great fighter came back after a loss, however, and proved their greatness. Roy never did. First good shot he took ruined him. He is basically a larger version of Donald Curry who had the luxury of fighting weak opposition while maintaining his HBO contract.
Maybe at 160, because that was the first 3 years of Jones' career so the inexperience factor of 160 Jones would definitely come into play if you were stacking him up against true career middleweights.
But at 168 to 175? Not a chance. Unfortunately people seem to judge Roy on the past 10 years while he was washed up and fighting to get out of tax debt. They see that he's been knocked out a bunch of times, some by relatively weak punchers like Glen Johnson, and come to the conclusion that, "hey, if Glen Johnson could knock him out, a KO artist like Archie Moore or Bob Foster would have killed him!"
People unfortunately forget how freakishly good Jones was in his prime. This was a guy with maybe the greatest reflexes in boxing history, a guy who was incredibly fast of hand and feet, and had legit one-punch KO power in each hand. That's another thing people forget. Roy wasn't a guy to take risks and try to chase a KO, but if he saw and opening or had a guy hurt he could close the show with deadly precision.
Anyone from 168-175 in the history of boxing gets eaten alive by Jones. He was truly one of a kind.
Not many if any!
"Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"
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