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    Joe Louis was great but he couldve been bigger if he didn't have a personality of a tree.

    He was more wooden than Keanu Reeves and Kneeguel Cotto combined, like no chaisma whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Joe Louis was great but he couldve been bigger if he didn't have a personality of a tree.

    He was more wooden than Keanu Reeves and Kneeguel Cotto combined, like no chaisma whatsoever.
    Yet Sonny Liston got chastised for the exact same thing (aside from his mob ties).

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Joe Louis was great but he couldve been bigger if he didn't have a personality of a tree.

    He was more wooden than Keanu Reeves and Kneeguel Cotto combined, like no chaisma whatsoever.
    You do understand why he acted like that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Joe Louis was great but he couldve been bigger if he didn't have a personality of a tree.

    He was more wooden than Keanu Reeves and Kneeguel Cotto combined, like no chaisma whatsoever.
    You do understand why he acted like that right?
    Was it against the law to have a personality? Jack Johnson and Robinson had charisma for days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Joe Louis was great but he couldve been bigger if he didn't have a personality of a tree.

    He was more wooden than Keanu Reeves and Kneeguel Cotto combined, like no chaisma whatsoever.
    You do understand why he acted like that right?
    Was it against the law to have a personality? Jack Johnson and Robinson had charisma for days.
    For Joe Louis YES ! He was the second black heavyweight champion and Jack Johnson kind of ruined it for Joe. He was expected to act a certain way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Joe Louis was great but he couldve been bigger if he didn't have a personality of a tree.

    He was more wooden than Keanu Reeves and Kneeguel Cotto combined, like no chaisma whatsoever.
    You do understand why he acted like that right?
    Was it against the law to have a personality? Jack Johnson and Robinson had charisma for days.
    For Joe Louis YES ! He was the second black heavyweight champion and Jack Johnson kind of ruined it for Joe. He was expected to act a certain way.
    Ic. So he was Mr Personality underneath it all yet he acted wooden because he was expected to. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Joe Louis was great but he couldve been bigger if he didn't have a personality of a tree.

    He was more wooden than Keanu Reeves and Kneeguel Cotto combined, like no chaisma whatsoever.
    You do understand why he acted like that right?
    I think you are missing the point

    All due respect to Joe Louis, but if he had asserted himself just a little, he wouldn't have been in the financial ruin he was in most of his life after boxing.

    Ray Robinson fought relatively during the same era and turned out just fine financially.

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    Default Re: Fighters who had a major weakness/flaw that kept them from greatness

    Considering this is boxing that could be any fighter plagued with a bad chin!
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    Joe Louis had financial troubles because he was taxed on purses he had for exhibition bouts when he was in the army. Also later in life he had a cocaine problem and gambling problem as he was hired to open casinos and glad hand the high rollers.

    His personality was put on mute because he never would have had a title shot if he acted like Jack Johnson. That's the 100% God's honest truth. That's how many feathers Johnson ruffled.

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    Default Re: Fighters who had a major weakness/flaw that kept them from greatness

    James Toney - discipline. Not that Toney didn't achieve greatness, but he could have been much more if he just kept his goddamn weight in check.

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    Also people use chin a lot, but I think if Khan had even a respectable chin he could be the #1 guy.

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    Joe Louis had financial troubles because he was taxed on purses he had for exhibition bouts when he was in the army. Also later in life he had a cocaine problem and gambling problem as he was hired to open casinos and glad hand the high rollers.

    His personality was put on mute because he never would have had a title shot if he acted like Jack Johnson. That's the 100% God's honest truth. That's how many feathers Johnson ruffled.
    Finito, he is right. Joe was a raver and had plenty of women but it was all kept under tabs. He was told never to gloat over a fighter he knocked out which is why he looked stone faced. Johnson ruined it for a lot of black fighters, at the lower weights it was ok to be champion but not at heavyweight.
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    Well the funny thing now is that the people would rather have bad mouthing black guy and have him be a thug from ghetto in US. Now all we have are these white guys who look the same are doctors and help people around the world and they get shit for not having personality how times have changed.

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    Joe Louis had financial troubles because he was taxed on purses he had for exhibition bouts when he was in the army. Also later in life he had a cocaine problem and gambling problem as he was hired to open casinos and glad hand the high rollers.

    His personality was put on mute because he never would have had a title shot if he acted like Jack Johnson. That's the 100% God's honest truth. That's how many feathers Johnson ruffled.
    Finito, he is right. Joe was a raver and had plenty of women but it was all kept under tabs. He was told never to gloat over a fighter he knocked out which is why he looked stone faced. Johnson ruined it for a lot of black fighters, at the lower weights it was ok to be champion but not at heavyweight.
    Joe Louis pretty much was a white man with dark skin

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