Floyd is jealous of Manny...

[ykdadamaja]

I'm sorry my friend but I disagree. In the p4v numbers it's not even close. Floyd is the biggest name in boxing. Plus Manny has a slave contract with Arum. Floyd is free to do what he wants. If anyone is jealous it's Manny.

We're not talking about PPV numbers, we're talking about global appeal and likability. Which makes it even worse for Floyd- he sells ppv's, which is all that matters to him. But we still talk about Manny.

[Beanflicker]

We're not talking about PPV numbers, we're talking about global appeal and likability.

If you think Mayweather is jealous of Manny's likability, you have been suckered and outsmarted by Floyd himself.

Floyd has created his empire by perpetuating the "Money Mayweather" bad guy character (not saying he really isn't a piece of shit, but he has done nothing but purposely perpetuate and strengthen that stigma). That's what sells tickets. He knew he wasn't going to be Sugar Ray Leonard, so he went the other way and became the villain. If Mayweather and Pacquiao had fought, he would have played up his villain character and played off of Pac's likability. He doesn't give two shits who people like more.

Look at the credits of these All Access 24/7 pieces he has done. You'll see that Floyd is listed as an Executive or Associate Producer. Floyd had complete creative control over them. He could have made them 60 minutes of him passing out turkeys to the poor and kissing babies if he wanted to. Instead, you see him acting like a spoiled prima donna, a rich asshole who can buy whatever he wants, who gets in fights with his dad, ect. That's calculated shit.

Even if you think Floyd is dumb as rocks, he has an army of brilliant businessmen and advisers behind him. He's playing everyone and that's how he's made his millions.

[ykdadamaja]

Beanflicker is a Floyd friend, or family member... I see it now.

As said: even with all of Floyd's accomplishments, and Manny's flaws, Manny is still exalted- and in some respects, more exalted than Floyd in in some areas- to a point where he is just as known, just as respected and just as much of a crowd pleasing fighter than Floyd is.

In fact, Manny is a more crowd pleasing fight, pre-fight and during the fight, than Floyd is now.

People watch Floyd because it is the Mayweather machine... sorta like everyone watches the Heat of today, or the Bull's of the 90's or the Lakers/Celtics of the 80's. You watch because they are the teams to watch... even if you are not a fan of theirs, you respect greatness.

But, with all that being said, Manny still is as much of a respected fighter and household name than Mayweather is. Mayweather must hate that...

[ykdadamaja]

Take it like this, Beanflicker:

We "watch" Money Mayweather.... but.....

We "LOVE" Manny Pacqioua.

I enjoy the Mayweather showcase... and respect it a great deal.... but I LOVE WATCHING A MANNY PACQIUOA FIGHT!!!

[Master]

I do not like Floyd and I do not like watching him box because he is negative and runs. The only reason I watch his fights is the hope that one day someone will land and knock his stupid smile of his silly face.

[Bo-Bo24]

I do not like Floyd and I do not like watching him box because he is negative and runs. The only reason I watch his fights is the hope that one day someone will land and knock his stupid smile of his silly face.

Thats exactly what Floyd wants people to do. Even if you hate him you gotta tune in and watch

[Master]

I do not like Floyd and I do not like watching him box because he is negative and runs. The only reason I watch his fights is the hope that one day someone will land and knock his stupid smile of his silly face.

Thats exactly what Floyd wants people to do. Even if you hate him you gotta tune in and watch

Eubanks had the same effect and probably Ali, Floyd is not unique. I would not watch him against Maidana, Guerrero, Ortiz. I had hope with Canelo and stayed up for that fight.

[Violent Demise]

Take it like this, Beanflicker:

We "watch" Money Mayweather.... but.....

We "LOVE" Manny Pacqioua.

I enjoy the Mayweather showcase... and respect it a great deal.... but I LOVE WATCHING A MANNY PACQIUOA FIGHT!!!

Bob Arum and the IRS really love Pacquiao

[mrbig1]

Take it like this, Beanflicker:

We "watch" Money Mayweather.... but.....

We "LOVE" Manny Pacqioua.

I enjoy the Mayweather showcase... and respect it a great deal.... but I LOVE WATCHING A MANNY PACQIUOA FIGHT!!!

Bob Arum and the IRS really love Pacquiao

You see, That's what I'm saying. Manny has no control over his career. His is Arum bitch and does what he is told. What fighter would fight JMM 5 fucking times. It's because they are both own by Arum. A guy who Floyd beat the shit out of. I hear what you guys are saying. I would agree that Manny is loved by more people. On the other hand Floyd knows this is a business and more people will pay to see you lose than win. So I can't see how Floyd is jealous when he's folding the paper like a mofo.

[Beanflicker]

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You see, That's what I'm saying. Manny has no control over his career. His is Arum bitch and does what he is told. What fighter would fight JMM 5 fucking times. It's because they are both own by Arum. A guy who Floyd beat the shit out of. I hear what you guys are saying. I would agree that Manny is loved by more people. On the other hand Floyd knows this is a business and more people will pay to see you lose than win. So I can't see how Floyd is jealous when he's folding the paper like a mofo.

That's it, man.

The truth is, every professional athlete in sports today would love to be in Mayweather's position. The fact is, pretty much all major athletes are exploited. Even ones that are making multi-millions are really only seeing a small fraction of the money they actually generate.

Floyd has leveraged himself in the sport where he is getting the lion's share of the money he generates.

Floyd is a dick who loves to be hated and loves to be rich. Well, he's plenty hated and plenty rich, so I don't see why he would be jealous of anyone.

[Beanflicker]

Take it like this, Beanflicker:

We "watch" Money Mayweather.... but.....

We "LOVE" Manny Pacqioua.

I enjoy the Mayweather showcase... and respect it a great deal.... but I LOVE WATCHING A MANNY PACQIUOA FIGHT!!!

I get that. I would rather watch a Pacquiao fight than a Mayweather fight. And Pacquaio seems like the much nicer guy outside of the ring.

But if you think Mayweather is jealous of Pac, you're nuts. He has a better footing in the sport and a much better financial situation (which came from being hated).

Floyd is exactly where he wants to be in the sport. Manny is the guy playing catch-up.

[Addicted to_boxing]

Take it like this, Beanflicker:

We "watch" Money Mayweather.... but.....

We "LOVE" Manny Pacqioua.

I enjoy the Mayweather showcase... and respect it a great deal.... but I LOVE WATCHING A MANNY PACQIUOA FIGHT!!!

I get that. I would rather watch a Pacquiao fight than a Mayweather fight. And Pacquaio seems like the much nicer guy outside of the ring.

But if you think Mayweather is jealous of Pac, you're nuts. He has a better footing in the sport and a much better financial situation (which came from being hated).

Floyd is exactly where he wants to be in the sport. Manny is the guy playing catch-up.

What a completely stupid topic. Since when does a prize fighter want to be loved? He wants to be remembered , relevant or great. All you PAC Nuthuggers can have a Pac lovefest orgy .. PAC fans are mostly bandwagon fans new to boxing . Definitely not leaders , leaders make sound decisions and speak with wit. PAC fans speak in fantasy terms and deny facts when presented. Like Pac's next opponent: easy look for the guy with a marque name coming off a loss like in 80 % of his cherry picked fights. So it's probably the Kahn / Broner loser. Could be the winner as well as neither has power to deal with.

[Beanflicker]

What a completely stupid topic. Since when does a prize fighter want to be loved? He wants to be remembered , relevant or great. All you PAC Nuthuggers can have a Pac lovefest orgy .. PAC fans are mostly bandwagon fans new to boxing . Definitely not leaders , leaders make sound decisions and speak with wit. PAC fans speak in fantasy terms and deny facts when presented. Like Pac's next opponent: easy look for the guy with a marque name coming off a loss like in 80 % of his cherry picked fights. So it's probably the Kahn / Broner loser. Could be the winner as well as neither has power to deal with.

What was stupid about my post, dummy?

[bambamdaddio]

I'm sorry my friend but I disagree. In the p4v numbers it's not even close. Floyd is the biggest name in boxing. Plus Manny has a slave contract with Arum. Floyd is free to do what he wants. If anyone is jealous it's Manny.

We're not talking about PPV numbers, we're talking about global appeal and likability. Which makes it even worse for Floyd- he sells ppv's, which is all that matters to him. But we still talk about Manny.

Well I'm English and living in England, I appreciate and respect both fighters, but imo Mayweather is awesome, and on another level to Pac . . I really like Mayweather and what he stands for too . . he turns other fighters into very rich people.

Maybe I'm being a little naive in thinking that win lose or draw, surely any boxer in their right mind would wanna fight and earn the kinda money a bout with Mayweather would bring in? . . and if anything I believe Mayweather to be a victim of his own success re who, what, when, and where to fight.

I cant see how or why Mayweather would be jealous of Manny (as good as Manny is or has been), I would have thought Mayweather would be far more focused on the serious issues other than to have time for, or to allow jealousy to creep under his skin, I'm thinking he'd be far too professional to either allow or to be bothered about that kinda thing, tho again that's just my humble opinion.

However, I do feel the debate is stronger and stands up better the other way around . . I could see an argument for Manny being a little jealous of Floyd re his achievements and undefeated status alone. that would make more sense to me.....

[FinitoElDinamita]

Real talk by YK.. I will put it like this.. I like the style of floyd more as a boxer but I like pac's mentality and character..

Yea floyd is probably a bit jealous deep down inside because he got passed over with the ' Fighter of the decade ' award which is a pretty big deal...

Remember his racist rant about pac cooking dogs ? Typical nigga style who has never been taught any better at home..