Anybody picking Chino

[Rantcatrat]

No, for several reasons.

I don't think this is a complete gimme like most people think. Maidana is a rough customer who hits hard and is relentless, and Floyd isn't as fast of hand and feet as he once was, so I can see Maidana crowding Mayweather and making it rough for him.

A few things that make Maidana and interesting fight is that he's a lot grittier and more relentless than the guys Floyd has been fighting as of late. I don't see him giving up mentally, because he's used to being the slower guy in there who has to eat 3 or 4 punches to land 1. He is also a lot more unorthodox in his punching than guys like Canelo, and we saw that in the Broner fight. The shots he hurt Broner with were all from crazy angles, or punches that changed trajectory mid-flight. He's very effective on the inside and throws from crazy angles, so guaranteed he will land on Floyd on the inside if Floyd choses to go into a shell in front of him.

Other than that, I just don't think Maidana quite has the one-punch power needed to catch and blast Mayweather out of there. He might hurt him ala Mosley, but Floyd has showed a fantastic chin and ability to remain calm under duress, so even if Maidana hurts him I don't see him being able to close the show.

And as clever as Maidana can be with his power shots, he really only has one gear, and if he's tagging Floyd with any consistency in the early rounds, Floyd is intelligent enough to make the adjustments (unlike stupid Broner).

I'm looking forward to the fight, I'm hoping that Maidana can make Floyd uncomfortable in there, land some blows and maybe a couple of elbows, make it a street fight. And there's always that possibility that Floyd gets old overnight and all of a sudden his reflexes and punch resistance are diminished and Maidana cashes in a lottery ticket ala Antonio Tarver.

To put it in perspective, the odds for Canelo-Mayweather were 2-1 or 3-1 for Mayweather. The odds for Maidana-Mayweather, with Maidana coming off arguably the biggest victory of his career are 13-1 for Mayweather. This is the definition of a gimme fight. I don't see any way Chino wins. Mayweather might actually get his first stoppage since Hatton.

[Rantcatrat]

By the way, did anyone notice Floyd is making $32 MM for this fight and Chino is making $1.5? How much did Marcos make for his fight against Broner?

[Beanflicker]

Well, besides the obvious fact that Vegas odds makers are far from infallible and odds don't really accurately represent the dangers of fighting an elite level boxer, I think the odds difference can be explained largely by the fact that Canelo was the much bigger man who Floyd was moving up to fight, and was also undefeated.

Maidana is a rough customer and he's not going to quit or beat himself in there. He's going to come out firing and make Mayweather work. This is not a "gimme" fight. The odds would have been equally bad (or at least close to it) if it was Khan fighting him as well. It's just a testament to how dominant Floyd is in the sport.

[Rantcatrat]

Well, besides the obvious fact that Vegas odds makers are far from infallible and odds don't really accurately represent the dangers of fighting an elite level boxer, I think the odds difference can be explained largely by the fact that Canelo was the much bigger man who Floyd was moving up to fight, and was also undefeated.

Maidana is a rough customer and he's not going to quit or beat himself in there. He's going to come out firing and make Mayweather work. This is not a "gimme" fight. The odds would have been equally bad (or at least close to it) if it was Khan fighting him as well. It's just a testament to how dominant Floyd is in the sport.

Perhaps not a "gimme" fight depending on how you define "gimme, "but this is a very easy fight for Floyd. How many times has he beat guys with Maidana's style?

[g3org3]

I'm not even picking chino to win a round.
Did any1 see the face off sounds as if this could be maywathers last fight.

[Beanflicker]

Perhaps not a "gimme" fight depending on how you define "gimme, "but this is a very easy fight for Floyd. How many times has he beat guys with Maidana's style?

I'm not saying I'm picking Maidana or even that I think Floyd ISN'T going to win a lopsided decision.

What I'm saying is that Maidana is a world class prizefighter with big punching power and an incredibly aggressive style and he's not going to beat himself. Floyd's going to have to go in there and work for it. These guys aren't coming in to make Floyd look good, they're coming in to cash in a lottery ticket and dethrone the biggest name in the sport.

On paper does this look like another lopsided decision for Floyd? Sure. But I don't like hearing people talking about "easy" wins, especially with a guy like Maidana.

People were saying the same shit about Maidana when they announced he was fighting Broner. People were accusing Broner of cherry-picking Maidana to look good. Maidana is a rough customer.

[Rantcatrat]

Perhaps not a "gimme" fight depending on how you define "gimme, "but this is a very easy fight for Floyd. How many times has he beat guys with Maidana's style?

I'm not saying I'm picking Maidana or even that I think Floyd ISN'T going to win a lopsided decision.

What I'm saying is that Maidana is a world class prizefighter with big punching power and an incredibly aggressive style and he's not going to beat himself. Floyd's going to have to go in there and work for it. These guys aren't coming in to make Floyd look good, they're coming in to cash in a lottery ticket and dethrone the biggest name in the sport.

On paper does this look like another lopsided decision for Floyd? Sure. But I don't like hearing people talking about "easy" wins, especially with a guy like Maidana.

People were saying the same shit about Maidana when they announced he was fighting Broner. People were accusing Broner of cherry-picking Maidana to look good. Maidana is a rough customer.

What would be an "easy win" for you? For my money, Canelo was not an "easy win," nor was Cotto.

Guerrero, Ortiz and Baldomir were easy fights for a champion like Mayweather. Those aren't easy fights for most other people, but for Mayweather, they're easy fights.

Lepai beat up Boystov who was a world-level competitor to get himself into the ring with Wlad. Lepai is a relatively accomplished professional, but, I'm sorry, that was an easy fight for Wlad. Lepai is still a big Samoan with a big punch, but the outcome was predetermined. Maidana is a tougher opponent in a p4p sense than Lepai, but he's an easy opponent nonetheless.

Maidana presents nothing Floyd hasn't seen before. There is no suspense as to what the outcome will be like there was at least a little bit with Canelo. He's not faster; he doesn't punch harder; he's not smarter; he's not bigger; and he's not more technically savvy than Floyd's previous opponents. In every single category you would look at to compare with Mayweather, Maidana loses.

Maidana was a tough outing for Broner, but so was Paulie. Broner is no Mayweather.

[Beanflicker]

I'm looking forward to the fight, I have a feeling Maidana is going to prove himself worthy to be in there. I don't think he'll win, but I think he'll make a fight out of it.

I think he'll do better than Canelo... and you can quote me on that!

VIVA ARGENTINA!!!

[Beanflicker]

By the way, did anyone notice Floyd is making $32 MM for this fight and Chino is making $1.5? How much did Marcos make for his fight against Broner?

I think $800,000 but I could be wrong.

[p4pking]

I don't think Maidana is any tougher or grittier than Robert Guerrero or Canelo, and the latter guy would clearly kill him. Watch his fight with Alexander, he was totally lost in there and looked just like those guys did fighting Floyd. I give him virtually zero chance here as well.

[zhubin]

I think Maidana's power is being over hyped. I don't think he is a KO artist at 147 at all. The Broner fight isn't a great barometer either...Broner had no business at 147 so quickly, he is much easier to hit than Floyd, and even though Maidana stunned Broner...he by no means BADLY hurt him.

[Master]

No but we are all hoping.

[Spicoli]

The last time I picked against Mayweather was vs Hatton In fool disclosure I was also a daily user of high grade marijuana and the occasional and very accidental hallucinogen. If Maidana pulls a miracle I will love it, I'll also piss myself to the point of my bladder exploding. I just cannot see it all aligning for him.